Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   Paco Hope #resist (paco@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 26-Sep-2024 07:38:08 JST Paco Hope #resist

   • Daryl White

   @djwfyi And will their support for the nuclear power plant even last as long as their support for the Zune? #microsoft #ai

   • Embed this notice
     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 26-Sep-2024 07:38:08 JST feld

     in reply to

     • Daryl White
     @paco @djwfyi they signed a 20 year contract, so yeah they're gonna be on the hook for it
   • Embed this notice
     Paco Hope #resist (paco@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 26-Sep-2024 08:05:08 JST Paco Hope #resist

     in reply to

     • Daryl White
     • feld

     @feld I think that’s overly simplistic. Businesses terminate contracts all the time. Sometimes maliciously, sometimes simply in accordance with the terms of the contract. The real answer will come from whether it is more expensive to fulfill their obligations to the contract, or to pay whatever penalties for walking away. The real people of New York will be left holding the bag if they walk away.

     At this moment in history, when historical scientific quality is just down all over the tech world (eg Boeing, Tesla, IT generally) I am not excited about big, one-way door decisions like bringing on nuclear power, motivated by short term fads like AI.

     I guess it could be good, though. Use AI to bring on all this nuclear power, then the fad blows over, and when we retire capacity we retire dirty carbon sources.

     @djwfyi

   • Embed this notice
     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 26-Sep-2024 08:05:08 JST feld

     in reply to

     • Daryl White
     @paco @djwfyi
     
     So if they want to walk away, they'll pay. That's fine. No harm done really. And by then maybe it will be time to retire some of the coal.
     
     (idk why you namedrop Tesla here, it's the best car I've ever had in my life. Zero problems >110k miles. Amazing technology.)
     
     > short term fads like AI
     
     It's not gonna end up all-consuming everything like the investors want you to believe, but it's not going to disappear into the night.
     
     > The real people of New York will be left holding the bag if they walk away.
     
     3 Mile Island is in the operating jurisdiction of PJM, not NYISO 😉