@IAMAL_PHARIUS >netanyahu, what are you doing? >making a jewish ethnostate >it's 4 o'clock in the morning why on earth are you making a jewish ethnostate >because ive lost control of my diaspora
*scene change*
>here's your ethnostate my fellow jews >oh that's okay uncle netanyahu, i dont want it anymore
@georgia@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul completely irrelevant whatabout combined with justification of mistreatment of the people already living there to "liberate" someone else.
@sun@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul you're right its a bad comparison as Jews are indigenous to Palestine while Europeans are foreigners in America. :akko_shrug:
@georgia@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul the converted, intermixed and thoroughly european and russian people "returning" to Israel had no connection to that area other than a sense of entitlement.
@sun@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul Ive told you the following information before and yet you still parrot the false narrative that European Jews are mostly Slavic converts when Ashkenazi Jews have very little Slavic ancestry and along with other major Jewish groups are genetically 50 percent or more Bronze Age Canaanite (including contemporary Zagros admixture)--consistent with Judean males converting the women of host nations, this ancestry is paternal. Ashkenazi Jewish admixture is not Slavic or German, it is Southern European. In addition to being ancestrally indigenous most of Jewish culture including most of Judaism is rooted in Eretz Israel, down to the indigenous Jewish calendar. Lastly unlike your racist worldview where everyone has to be a monolithic group with blood purity racially, conversion is a legitimate way of joining the Jewish people. Would you say the Canadian Metis are not indigenous people?
Peace will come to the Levant but it won't be any thanks to white men like you who offer false conceptions of what the Jewish people are and what their history is.
@georgia@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul I literally don't care if they are because I reject the idea that you can be completely detached from your ancestral roots and over a thousand years later come back and violently subjugate the people there.
@Nudhul@IAMAL_PHARIUS@sun I see this grudge as no different from the Chinese people's Century of Humiliation. Except longer. Neither give white people excuses to be racist.
@sun@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul Jews were never "completely detached" from their ancestral roots. Jews until very recently are ethnically, culturally, religiously, ancestrally, still Jews-- still Judeans. You're ignorant of how Jews experience and have experienced this so you think not living for a place for a long time means detachment from the place, when that's not true at all.
@georgia@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul when you are absent you are detached, because while you are gone entire generations come and go both where you are and where you aren't.
@sun@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul If absence meant detachment then Diasporas would immediately cease to exist in a recognizable way once uprooted. I'd respect it if you admit you just don't understand what Jews have experienced as a people but instead you crop it up to "entitlement".
@georgia@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul I think it matters if the time was a generation or if it was dozens. sometimes you lose something and you aren't going to get it back without committing another atrocity and I reject the validity of that.
@georgia@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul I am not in favor of dissolving the actual state because now a bunch of people have lived there for multiple generations from the colonization.
@sun@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul And Arabs lost their dominance over Palestine earned by war and conquest and aren't getting it back without another Holocaust.
@georgia@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul I don't want it dissolved, I personally think it should have a shared government despite that probably being impossible at this point because of parties on both sides. That is just kind of an opinion though, the policy I would actually advocate for is the USA just not helping Israel.
@sun@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul that's a fair policy, imo Israel shouldn't get used to the help post 1973 because historically no one can really be counted on to help the Jews
@sun@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul@georgia and dont forget, that the holocaust was carefully orchestrated by the rothschilds and other genocideering zionists to justify an israeli ethnostate, so the human toll of israel is double.
for israel to happen, you had to have the holocaust, and the nakba. anyone that tries to justify its existance or rebuke its necessary inexistance is a genocideer and a puppet of billionaire rapist pedophiles.
@sun@georgia@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Nudhul dont give shit to the jews. they exterminated the caanites, were a pain in the ass to rome, were exhiled, and return only to exterminate palestinians out of religious and ethnic nationalism, having already settled comfortable everywhere else.
she's justifying atrocities by equating it to something else. zionists are a superset worse than settler colonialists, dont give her an inch