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   Gina (gina@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 18:19:43 JST Gina

   Congrats, #fediverse. It's your first day as a dictator! Who are you sending to the gulags?

   For me it's the manufacturers of fake pockets. Straight to jail 😠

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 19:53:43 JST 翠星石

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     • tyil
     @tyil "fair code" is a class of proprietary licenses, for proprietary ends.
     
     Of course their blogposts give of "good vibes", but look closer and you'll see the proprietary rat.
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     tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 19:53:45 JST tyil

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     • Hyolobrika
     • Brodie Robertson

     @Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net @Gina@fosstodon.org @BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social From the blogpost you linked elsewhere in the thread I get good vibes, they seem to desire an outcome that I seem to desire as well.
     
     I'm not sure how often they update their site, perhaps these are references from before Elastic and MongoDB decided to pull the rug. Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding something from their definitions.

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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 19:53:46 JST Hyolobrika

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     • tyil
     • Brodie Robertson
     @tyil @Gina
     
     https://www.elastic.co/licensing/elastic-license/
     
     >Limitations
     
     >You may not provide the software to third parties as a hosted or managed service, where the service provides users with access to any substantial set of the features or functionality of the software.
     
     >You may not move, change, disable, or circumvent the license key functionality in the software, and you may not remove or obscure any functionality in the software that is protected by the license key.
     
     That's a fair criticism. I didn't read all the licenses that they list as fair code. I just heard @BrodieOnLinux talk about it on his channel and I read the principles.
     
     They do mention "freedom" in the principles, though, as well as "free" as in price.
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     tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 19:53:49 JST tyil

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     • Hyolobrika

     @Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net @Gina@fosstodon.org I'm guessing you're referring to faircode.io, not faircode.com here.
     
     I hadn't heard of this before, but after a quick glance it appears that proprietary licenses are acceptable as "fair code", seeing as the licenses of MongoDB and Elastic are included. The MongoDB one requires me to accept cookies to read it, but the Elastic license comes with some very clear limitations at the top that would make it unsuitable as a free software license as far as I can tell. It sounds like Fair Code uses "free" only to refer to monetary cost.

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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 19:53:50 JST Hyolobrika

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     • tyil
     @tyil @Gina No, I mean greedy people in general.
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     tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 19:53:52 JST tyil

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     • Hyolobrika

     @Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net @Gina@fosstodon.org The execution of greedy people abusing the system? I thought the courts were meant for that

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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 19:53:53 JST Hyolobrika

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     • tyil
     @tyil @Gina That's basically the sort of thing fair-code/source-first was meant to deal with
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     tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 19:53:54 JST tyil

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     @Gina@fosstodon.org Company leadership (this includes any level of management) taking the fruits of free software to run their business, but refuse to publish their own software as free software. Shoot them where they stand.