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   • Annalee Newitz 🍜
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   @HistoPol @simon @annaleen @BBCWorld I’m not sure why you’re linking back to an earlier entry in this same thread, but while it’s a worthy research topic it’s not clear that embodiment is key. I haven’t seen anything that uses ML and has any capacity to handle interruptions, and without being able to handle interruptions trying to control a body is not going to go well

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     @ShadSterling
     Sorry, I hadn't realized when I wrote it that it was the same thread. (The fast app I am using on my smartphone is not really good at portraying threads.)

     How do you define "interruptions" in this respect?

     Are you aware of the work of #BostonDynamics?

     E.g. https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2020/12/29/22205055/boston-dynamics-robots-spot-atlas-handle-dancing-video

     They have a lot of this kind of #YouTube videos. They are impressive and really fun to watch.
     IMHO they are about to...

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     @ShadSterling
     ...surpass the capabilities of the insurgents in #IRobot within the next twelve months.
     And in combination with with the command and control room structure product announced this week by #Thiel's #Palantir we can expect the first robots wars within this decade:

     https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110323739545391429

     The only still missing link is military-grade secure communications protocol...

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     @ShadSterling @voron @simon @annaleen @BBCWorld

     ...but is it?--We would not have heard of it if it did.

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     @HistoPol @voron @simon @annaleen @BBCWorld militaries have owned the best in secure communication for thousands of years, it hasn’t changed recently, and securing military communication is why computers happened when they did. The issue for AI swarming is not security, it’s variety - really independent learning machines can’t just copy each others brains without adaptation, because both their minds and their bodies will have zillions of differences

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     @HistoPol @voron @simon @annaleen @BBCWorld one simple example of a difference: we have IoT systems where thousands of devices are deployed for for a specific time period (e.g. to study volcano vibrations for 5 years), and some of them tune their activity to manage battery life across the small differences allowed by the manufacturing tolerance. A larger system would have that kind of difference across every component - every motor, and every CPU

     HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 repeated this.
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     @HistoPol @voron @simon @annaleen @BBCWorld any learning system that creates itself with feedback from its body will come out too different to have any low-level copying from one to another work, communication will have to be more abstract, and interpreted - more like how humans do it than software for standard computers. Even more so if it optimizes itself across CPU differences. Remote-control armies would work far better for the foreseeable future