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   Susanna (susie@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:22:48 JST Susanna
   Today my mom was angry, cause her lesbian coworker is getting a baby on her tax money. Yeah. Sometimes old people just baffle me. It doesn't even cost that much to get impregnated by frozen semen.
   
   In the same discussion she was fine with giving 30k euros to people who get kids. I kinda noped out of that conversation after that. Lesbians and gays can get kids if they want in my opinion, and it doesn't even cost shit in case of lesbian couples where one of them carries the baby to term. (Though adoption is an option too).
   
   If people were getting 30k a pop for a kid, there would be issues with women being made literal baby machines in abusive households (especially oppressed immigrated women). I personally wouldn't want to open that can of worms (whoops, our babies die, gib new money). Better would be to get 30k one time for getting a baby, not per baby. And both mother and father are banned from getting it again.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:22:47 JST SuperDicq

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     @susie@blob.cat I don't know where you live but here all the straight baby makers get free tax money (child benefits).

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:24:43 JST SuperDicq

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     @susie@blob.cat Yeah of course here in the Netherlands too. Children still cost more than child benefits to obviously discourage baby factories, but still it is MY TAX MONEY GOING TO STRAIGHT PEOPLE

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     Susanna (susie@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:24:45 JST Susanna

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq Finland. The monetary benefits are much less than the cost of children, so it is super rare that women are forced to get tons of kids.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:26:19 JST SuperDicq

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     @susie@blob.cat That is true

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     Susanna (susie@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:26:20 JST Susanna

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq It does go to same sex couples too if they get children though.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:37:54 JST SuperDicq

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     • DoubleD

     @DoubleD@merovingian.club @susie@blob.cat Government is probably scared of population decline if getting babies gets too expensive

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     DoubleD (doubled@merovingian.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:37:55 JST DoubleD

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     • SuperDicq

     @susie @SuperDicq Why not just not pay anyone to have babies?

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:42:54 JST SuperDicq

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     • DoubleD

     @DoubleD@merovingian.club @susie@blob.cat Personally I think we're about to hit the peak of world population and it will only start to decline and eventually become stable as quality of living goes up. I don't see any benefits of growing the human population.

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     DoubleD (doubled@merovingian.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Sep-2024 07:42:55 JST DoubleD

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     • SuperDicq

     @SuperDicq @susie Western governments the world-over are afraid of population decline, yes.

     Fertility rates have been declining for years, and no financial incentives have ever brought the fertility rate above 2.