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That was a very very cold opening between the two of them. #KamalaHarris took it upon herself to walk into his space and say her name aloud. Trump was ice cold.
They shook hands, seemingly at Harris’s initiation. Harris walked over to Trump w/her arm extended to initiate a handshake. “Kamala Harris,” she said as she took Trump’s hand — perhaps a subtle way to remind him, who has deliberately mispronounced her name on numerous occasions, how to pronounce her name.
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Dude, #Trump is literally spouting the ridiculous #ConspiracyTheory that #immigrants are eating cats & dogs, but doesn’t get distracted.
Again, ABC does a #FactCheck on this nonsense.
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#HannibalLecter has made his first presidential #debate appearance. ← sentence I never thought I’d write.
Trump loves to claim other nations are sending patients from mental institutions to the US (no evidence of this). But who would have thought Harris would be the first to mention Hannibal Lecter! #AsylumSeekers aren’t looking for #InsaneAsylums dumbass.
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This is the second time the ABC moderators have fact checked Trump’s false claims this time regarding crime stats under #BidenHarris
This seems an effort by #Harris to get under #Trump’s skin: “People start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.” And it works: instead of answering a question on immigration, Trump starts going off about how many people go to his rallies.
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#Trump repeatedly dodges the answer on whether he’d veto a #NationalAbortionBan. #JDVance said a few weeks ago that he would veto one if it came across his desk.
Trump basically saying: “JD Vance doesn’t speak for me.”
Trump often references stmnts from a fmr Virginia governor (Trump mixed it up w/West Virginia) to support his false claims that Democrats support killing babies. The VA gov’s comments were about how doctors handle rare cases where the fetus is not viable.
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#Trump is likely very happy to have the conversation move from #abortion to #immigration. Except…
#KamalaHarris says she supports the bipartisan Senate #border bill that Trump basically torpedoed last winter, saying he didn’t want to give the administration a policy win.
Harris says Trump preferred to “run on the problems” at the border rather than trying to fix them with the border bill.
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#Trump is claiming that #Democrats support executing babies after birth, which is NOT true. That’s illegal everywhere. We are hearing versions of this false claim a lot from #Republicans.
Even though the mics are muted, #KamalaHarris is trying to fact-check Trump in real time. Harris just said “that’s not true” as Trump talked about abortion.
Best #FactCheck of the night from ABC’s Linsey Davis: “There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born.”
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After #Trump spent much of his answer repeating the #lie that Democratic states allow killing babies after they’re born, #Harris explains current legal limits on #abortion.
This is a very strong & passionate answer on abortion from #KamalaHarris, really summing up how the bans have impacted #women since #Roe was overturned, & tying Trump closely to those bans.
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#Border #FactCheck #TrumpLies: The number of migrants crossing the southern border illegally is about 60,000 per month, the lowest level in four years
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#Trump is questioned on his #abortion track record — bragging about overturning #RoeVWade, then claiming his administration would be “great for women & their reproductive rights.”
Trump just mixed up the states of West Virginia & Virginia as part of his abortion answer.
#KamalaHarris’s mic is muted, but you can clearly see her shake her said and say “that’s not true” when Trump falsely claims her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, supports abortion in the ninth month.
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#KamalaHarris is attacking #Trump’s record on covid which was shit at best. He was often dismissive of what #PublicHealth experts suggested, and his administration made a number of major mistakes. She’s also attacking him for praising President Xi Jinping of China and taking a soft tack with him at the beginning of covid. As Yasmeen and I reported at the time, that’s true — his advisers begged him to take a harder line on Xi.
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“Not true. Not true,” #KamalaHarris mouths, raising her hand during a #Trump assertion about chips and the U.S. relationship with China. She knows her mic is muted, but that the camera is on her.
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#Harris goes after #Trump on #China policy. (We knew this was coming.) “This deal with China… He ended up selling American chips to China to help them improve and modernize their military — basically sold us out… when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the competition for the 21st century.”
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Trump again tries to say he set off a #StockMarket boom 🤣, arguing that the market was higher when he left office than it was when the pandemic hit. An irony there, however, is that it is significantly higher now under #BidenHarris than it EVER was at ANY point of the Trump administration.
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#Trump is now claiming he has NOTHING to do with #Project2025. That’s not quite true, but it makes sense he wants to disavow it. As Maeve Reston and I recently wrote, Democrats have successfully weaponized Project 2025 against Trump.
#KamalaHarris seems sort of amused with Trump’s last response. She smiled when he said he hadn’t read Project 2025.
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“What we have done is clean up Donald Trump’s mess” - #KamalaHarris
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One of the big shifts #KamalaHarris has imposed on the Biden strategy is that she leans much more heavily to the issue of costs. She starts out the gate, running at the #inflation argument, arguing that she is who will protect #family pocketbooks.
#Harris takes #Trump to task on his proposed #tariff plan. Trump has proposed a 10% automatic tariff on $3 TRILLION of annual US imports, which would cost a typical #MiddleIncome household ~$1,700 per year….A huge increase from tariffs of his 1st term.
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Trump again [sigh] reiterates #ConspiracyTheories that #immigrants are taking the jobs of native-born Americans, including #Black Americans. The percentage of native-born #Americans who are #employed, factoring for structural changes in age, are higher than at any year of the Trump admin. That ratio for Black workers is as high or higher as it ever was during the Trump presidency.
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Among the proposals #KamalaHarris quickly refers to: a $50k #tax deduction for #SmallBusinesses, which would expand an existing tax deduction of $5k.
The #tariffs #Ttump plans to impose on US imports — & economists say amount to a tax on #US consumers.
#Trump did not look at Harris while she spoke. He was almost expressionless during her first answer. By contrast, Harris has turned her body & is listening as he speaks.
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Another #Trump #ConspiracyTheory:
Trump says #Harris wants to do #transgender operations on #immigrants in detention. He’s referring to Harris’s response to an ACLU candidate survey in 2019 in which she said this: “It is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition.”
He also thinks kids get operations during the public school day.
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Rather than offer substantive answers on how he would handle some of the most complex #ForeignPolicy issues, #Trump repeatedly claims, baselessly, that seismic events like #Russia’s invasion of #Ukraine or #Hamas’s Oct 7 attack on #Israel — & Israel’s subsequent war in #Gaza — would not have happened under his watch.
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#KamalaHarris mentioned that #Trump’s father gave him a big #inheritance — $400 million — & that his companies repeatedly have filed for bankruptcy.
Trump defensively: “I wasn’t giving $400 million, I wish I was,” he said. “I was given a fraction of that, a tiny fraction of that.”
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At last, #Trump is questioned about why he sat by for hours as his supporters stormed the Capitol on #Jan6. He didn’t answer that part of the question & instead moved to other topics.
Trump says “nobody died” on Jan 6, 2021, after describing the shooting death of Ashli Babbitt by Capitol Police. Multiple Capitol Police officers died either that day or in the days to come.
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#Trump looks annoyed as #KamalaHarris said he would terminate the #Constitution. Trump literally said [in a statement full of #lies & #disinformation], “A Massive Fraud of this type & magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, & articles, even those found in the Constitution," said in 2022, stunning his advisers.
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#Trump is still refusing to look at #KamalaHarris while she speaks.
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#KamalaHarris goes after #Trump’s #criminal charges and cases in a way Biden never did. Trump looked annoyed but didn’t say anything as she listed out his #felony #convictions & his various cases, including that he was found liable for a #SexualAssault in #NewYork. Now, he tries to fire back & claims #Harris & #Biden are responsible for the federal & state charges, with NO evidence.
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Obviously getting #desperate now, #Trump goes for the #pity play:
Bringing up his assassination attempt & the BS weaponization of the government: “I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things they say about me.”
give me a fucking break loser.
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#Trump falsely claims he got more votes than “any president in history by far” during the 2020 election.
#JoeBiden got 7 million more votes than Trump in 2020. Trump also lost the popular vote to #HillaryClinton in 2016. [#FuckTheElectoralCollege #PeopleVoteLandDoesNot]
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#Trump keeps coming back to #Venezuela #crime rates, which he claims have declined. This has NO BASIS IN #REALITY. Caracas remains one of the world’s most dangerous cities.
He is simply a #Maduro wannabe.
The violent crime #FactCheck by David Muir is 4th time ABC moderators have had to correct Trump.
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#Harris pivots to name drop all the #Republicans who are now backing her, including former vice president #DickCheney.
#Trump, Mr. #Insecurity, is driven totally crazy when #Democrats bring up his fmr advisers who have turned on him, particularly #JohnKelly, his fmr chief of staff. #KamalaHarris is doing just that tonight -- bringing up all the former administration officials who have spoken out against Trump.
Whiny baby says, “I fired most of those people, not so graciously” 🙄
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During the commercial breaks, neither candidate spoke to one another, according to reporters in the room. #Trump walked off stage during breaks, while #KamalaHarris has remained at her podium, writing notes.
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#Trump said the #Biden admin has been “horrible” for manufacturing.
#Manufacturing employment is higher than it was under Trump, & the U.S. had as of August added >765,000 manufacturing jobs since January 2021.
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#Trump keeps forcing rebuttal time for himself [as previously noted]. It’ll be interesting to see how much more time he speaks than #KamalaHarris over the full #debate.
Donald Trump says Kamala #Harris has claimed she doesn’t know Joe Biden. She has never said that. Harris & Biden have both spoken at length about their long friendship that began w/her friendship w/ Beau Biden who died of #cancer after exposure to #ToxicBurnPits while serving in the #military.
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#KamalaHarris referenced a trillion-dollar investment in #climate — the #InflationReductionAct — while also increasing #oil & #gas [#petrol] production. A report on the #IRA released this summer found that the #legislation led to a huge surge in private investments in #CleanEnergy industries.
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Trump did not articulating a vision for combating #ClimateChange. Instead he spoke about #Biden being “crooked” & various other #weird #ConspiracyTheories. He repeatedly dismissed the peril of the #ClimateCrisis.
#Trump used some of his final minutes to attack #Biden, who he’s no longer running against, going after his son, Hunter — an obsession of his — instead of his actual opponent #KamalaHarris.
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“I think it’s a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be president who has used race to divide people,” Harris says in response to Trump re-upping his baseless claim that Harris “turned black” a few years ago. Rather than defending herself or engaging with Trump’s claims, #KamalaHarris uses her response to list out various examples of #Trump race-baiting.
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#KamalaHarris spoke about #Trump’s history on #race, including him taking out an ad calling for the execution of the #CentralParkFive in #NewYork decades ago & spreading birther #lies about fmr POTUS Barack #Obama. She is arguing that he uses race to divide instead of talking about his false comments that she “turned Black” — that was the original question.
#FactCheck #TrumpLies: It’s not true that the Central Park 5 ever pleaded guilty. They gave coerced confessions.
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Here’s the #TaylorSwift post, cuz… people care
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On the campaign trail, #KamalaHarris has consistently brushed aside #Trump’s #identity-based attacks against her. In tonight’s #debate, she uses it to highlights Trump’s acerbic statements on race in the past: “I think it’s a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be President who has consistently over the course of his career, attempted to use #race to divide people.”
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#KamalaHarris’s attack on the #Trump #Taliban deal seemed to have its intended effect…
Best/Worst Trump quote of the night, “I got involved with the Taliban…”
…I mean… how do you get away with a sentence like that?
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So yeah, since lots of folks care about this kinda thing, also glad gurl has more courage than a lot of #republicans including #military members & #NationalSecurity personnel.
Excuse the audio.
#TaylorSwift [first time I EVER used that hashtag hopefully the last too; I’m not a hater, I’m just more punk & rock is all]
#debate #Election2024 #HarrisWalz2024
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#Trump interrupted Muir to talk about how great he was for #NATO by getting European countries to “pay up.”
Muir: Do you [#KamalaHarris] bear any responsibility for the lethal #Afghanistan withdrawal? #Harris says, “I agreed with President Biden’s decision to pull out. Four presidents said they would, & Joe Biden did.”
Harris seemed to pause conspicuously when she said “this … former president.” #SideEye ❤️.
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Earlier, #KamalaHarris referenced a #Wharton analysis that predicted Trump’s #economic plan would boost the #deficit. In response, #Trump claimed many Wharton professors, “the top professors, think my plan is a brilliant plan.” A Wharton professor has apparently turned to social media to discover if any Trump-affirming colleagues exist.
https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2024/8/26/trump-campaign-policy-proposals-2024
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#Trump attempts to make the case for why his friendliness w/various #dictators is an asset. He talks, as he has before, about how well he knows #Russia President Vladimir #Putin. It’s that relationship, he thinks, that would make a difference. #Biden doesn’t even know how to talk to Putin, he says. "He had no idea how to talk to him. He had no idea how to stop [Russia’s invasion]… & it’s only getting worse. And it could lead to WWIII…”
Trump really wants to be running against President Biden.
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After #Trump’s false statement [#lie] earlier in the #debate that people were recruiting illegal #immigrants to vote, #ElonMusk, who boasts nearly 200 million followers on X & endorsed Trump this summer, has just posted again promoting his theories about noncitizen voting.
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Yes my fingers are not as fast as this #debate…
[argh carpal tunnel!!]
It’s hard to keep track of the rapid-fire #TrumpLies. Asked how he would end the #Ukraine war “within 24 hours,” #Trump didn’t answer. Instead, he said: “I want to the war to stop … people are getting killed by the millions.” According to the United Nations, from February 2022 to the end of July, at least 11,520 civilians have been killed in Ukraine.
IN UKRAINE.
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#Trump has brought up #Biden repeatedly tonight, underscoring his struggle to adjust to running against #KamalaHarris.
Also notable: Trump keeps addressing #ABC #debate moderator #DavidMuir directly in his answers but ignoring #LinseyDavis — & often, #Harris herself.
[Biden & Muir are white men. Davis & Harris are women of color]
“Quiet, please,” Trump says to Harris as he’s responding to her last answer.
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#KamalaHarris strikes back with one of Trump’s favorite insults: #Trump is “#weak” on #ForeignPolicy. He “wants to be a #dictator.” He "told #Putin he can “do whatever the hell he wants” if Trump is reelected.
Trump would not say he wants #Ukraine to win the war with #Russia, & he would not say he has any regrets about #Jan6.
#tyranny #autocracy #authoritarianism #violence #FarRight #NationalSecurity #democracy #law
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#Trump says that if he were president, the #war in #Gaza “would never have started ... #Russia would have never, ever, ever have gone into #Ukraine & killed millions of people.” He doesn’t explain why/how. On the other hand, he says, #KamalaHarris “hates #Israel.” [um, ok, her husband is Jewish, idiot]. Trump also falsely claims she “hates the Arab population, because the whole place is going to get blown up...Arabs, Jewish people” & Israel won’t even be a country any more if Harris is elected.
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#Trump often talks about #strongmen loving him, including his relationships with #Hungary Prime Minister Viktor #Orban, #Russia President Vladimir #Putin & #NorthKorea leader #KimJongUn. He brags about the “love letters” from Kim Jong Un. Tonight, Harris is saying these world leaders want Trump back in office because they can manipulate him.
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Reportedly, #Trump advisers are livid that #ABC is periodically fact-checking him. CNN didn’t do that, for better or worse, in the last #debate. You’re going to see a lot of #GOP attacks on ABC tonight.
I’ll say this, the moderators are DEFINITELY allowing Trump to “respond” to #KamalaHarris’ answers FAR MORE than they’re allowing Harris to reply to his.
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