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   feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 22:31:03 JST feld
   What is the plan for people who are upset at Telegram not effectively moderating their platform whilst simultaneously promoting E2EE? Is it good that we're giving pedophiles and terrorists even more privacy?
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:05:43 JST feld

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     • Matty
     @matty That's not being refuted. But how long before Meredith is arrested for not helping the cops find criminals on Signal? Once every platform is forced to go E2EE for everything they'll have no choice but to move their efforts to prosecuting everyone who runs a platform that can protect criminal activity.
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     Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:05:44 JST Matty

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     Telegram isn't E2EE unless your chat is explicitly made as such.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:58:04 JST feld

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     • BillBob
     @BillBob No it's broken, they just got caught leaving a side channel attack in there through gross negligence
     
     https://soatok.blog/2024/08/14/security-issues-in-matrixs-olm-library/
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     BillBob (billbob@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:58:09 JST BillBob

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     If I was some kind of nerd I would get on this. What are peoples thoughts on Matrix? True E2E?
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:59:31 JST feld

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     • Ignas Kiela
     @ignaloidas It's not true that they did nothing, they publish transparency reports and allegedly take down "millions of posts" per day. You and I cannot verify this but there haven't been other governments refuting this so it's probably mostly true
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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:59:32 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @feld@friedcheese.us tbh I think it's more of the moral argument, telegram knew(or at least could easily know and stop) about that shit and did nothing, whereas signal by design doesn't have such agency.

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 02:27:47 JST feld

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     • Hyperhidrosis
     @Hyperhidrosis they'll make it illegal to have E2EE, that's how they'll handle this obstacle
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     Hyperhidrosis (hyperhidrosis@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 02:27:48 JST Hyperhidrosis

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     @feld ☝️🤓 ehm that's the job of people who's job it is to enforce the law