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   Annika Backstrom (annika@xoxo.zone)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 06:51:51 JST Annika Backstrom

   `cmd > file.txt 2>&1` vs `cmd 2>&1 > file.txt` always tripped me up: the first form is what I usually want (send both to file.txt) but always felt backwards to my brain.

   Prompted by Julia, I read up on https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Redirections.html and tried to understand why the first incantation sends both outputs to file.txt

   Also TIL zsh "MULTIOS" which sends stdout to your pipe even if you've redirected to a file.

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     Annika Backstrom (annika@xoxo.zone)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 09:41:29 JST Annika Backstrom

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     • glyn

     @underlap Well, you'll get it someday 🤷♀️

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     glyn (underlap@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 09:41:30 JST glyn

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     @annika Huh! I read the linked docs and still don't understand the difference.

     "standard error was made a copy of the standard output" seems wrong/weird as a description of 2>&1 in the second case.

     Does anyone reading this thread claim to understand?