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   Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:08:07 JST Pleroma-tan
   Do I want to configure an email server? No
   Do I want to configure anything related to email? No.
   Do I want- NO
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:08:05 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @PeachySummer no really it looks like a massive fuckin' headache and apparently experienced Unix sysadmins have been exasperated with configuring anything related to email servers
     
     I'm half wanting to fall into the rabbit hole for the meme but 2 years ago @dcc configured sendmail successfully and has never been the same since.
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     PeachySummer (peachysummer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:08:06 JST PeachySummer

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     DOITDOITDOUTDOITDOTIDOTIDOTIDITIDITODITODIROEITIDITITODITITORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:08:43 JST 

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     @kirby @dcc @PeachySummer Iv'e set up postfix and dovecot in 2017 or so and have just been copying my config since. Anyway, something like https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy should be more pierdoling-proof.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:09:26 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @PeachySummer @dcc :niggavoid:
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:12:48 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @PeachySummer @dcc tl;dr email is ancient and big tech has made sure it's as painful as possible to host a mail server due to their automated spam prevention policies 😄
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     PeachySummer (peachysummer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:12:49 JST PeachySummer

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     i can't read
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:12:53 JST djsumdog

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     I still run my own. It's opensmtpd based. It use to be postfix so it's accumulated some tech debt over the years, but it still works really well:
     
     https://battlepenguin.com/tech/upgrading-opensmtpd-6.3-and-running-e-mail-in-docker/
     
     but yea, it's not easy, but probably worth learning for young and upcoming sys admins. There's a lot of history there, buried in the SMTP protocol and all the things that have been bolted onto it over the years.
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:15:28 JST meso

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     @mint @dcc @kirby @PeachySummer this stuff looks pretty cool, my friend uses Mailcow but it seems retarded so I'll try this
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:16:53 JST Pawlicker

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     @kirby @dcc @PeachySummer this is what eugen wants for mastodon
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:17:18 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @PeachySummer @dcc MAYBE
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     PeachySummer (peachysummer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:17:19 JST PeachySummer

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     Looks like you should pull yourself up by your own bootstraps, pal.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:18:12 JST 

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     • PeachySummer
     @kirby @PeachySummer @dcc Oh, and if your plan is to enable nyanide to send email confirmations for new account, you could just make a box on cock.li, fedora.email or whatever, and then just send them via SMTP. Cyberia does this.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:20:23 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @phnt @dcc @PeachySummer I'm going to choose to believe it's like riding a bicycle :happey: :happy_cat:
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:20:24 JST Phantasm

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     @kirby @dcc @PeachySummer
     
     It's a pain for the first time. My second setup was done in 20 minutes while completely wasted from whiskey.
     
     What's hard in the long run is Gmail and Exchange deliveries.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:20:57 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @mint @dcc @PeachySummer nah it's more so wanting to use personal email for myself. i have a mailbox on nyanide.com that actually just bounces everything it receives to another email it's pointed to
     
     would like to be able to send mail from that alias lol. The confirmation thing would more so be cherry on top if I get it right
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:22:58 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @phnt @dcc @PeachySummer it's fine to just completely omit that for the first run right? I don't really care about spam right now because I haven't used any of my emails in a more public context
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:22:59 JST Phantasm

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     @kirby @PeachySummer @dcc and of course writing sieve rules to keep spam out with the help of spamassassin.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:23:24 JST Phantasm

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     • PeachySummer
     @kirby @dcc @PeachySummer Essentially yes. In the beginning you will be banging your head on your desk and after that it will mostly be a breeze.
     
     There are some docker solutions (namely Mailcow, and the hell that fedora.email uses), but I abandoned those immediately when they failed to run on podman.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:30:35 JST Phantasm

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     @kirby @dcc @PeachySummer You will he get spam anyway. Bots will scan your IP, perform a reverse DNS lookup, get your domain and spam the default addresses like webmaster, abuse,...
     
     You can always set it up later if you want. But since you will need to setup dmarc and dkim anyway, it's better to also setup spamassassin. It's like a single change in postfix after dmarc/dkim and one sieve rule in dovecot.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 01:30:53 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @phnt @dcc @PeachySummer awh fair enough 🐱
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 05:12:49 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     • PeachySummer
     @mint @kirby @PeachySummer I just used luke smiths emil wizard configs. :luke:
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 05:17:07 JST 

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     @dcc @kirby @PeachySummer I don't like creating system users for every single mailbox I need.