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I was thinking about how the 80s must have been great. Only password you needed to know was your ATM PIN, and the biggest thing to complain about was that you weren't supposed to laminate your SSN card.
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@pepsi_man America made that choice when they abandoned the space program. That was actually the question that was being asked - "do we push for excellence and understand that people will fall short, or do we coddle everyone because we have the money to?"
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@sickburnbro
America revolves around coddling stupid people.
It's the most dysgenic strategy any nation has ever deployed.
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@PunishedD it's like that one image from xkcd, it's just a very weak piece that all of a sudden got everything built on top of it.
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@sickburnbro "Let's make every account that runs your life dependent on the one piece of hardware you are most likely to lose or break."
Insanity. Billions of "security professionals" must die.
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@PunishedD no, the whole point of the phone thing isn't to piggyback on the ID verification that a CC company does.
You can give a phone number that isn't yours to any of these services. They verify that you are that number by them sending a number and you responding quickly.
If you have a company phone that the company pays for it is in no way legally tied to you.
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@sickburnbro The reason it happened was profoundly retarded. Nobody does rigorous ID verification except for banks/CC companies. The fastest way to prove you have one is feedback with something that requires such personal verification: your monthly phone bill.
So we built the entire Internet account infrastructure piled on to the old way of verifying identity, instead of building out a good new way.
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@PunishedD That literally never happens.
They ban google voice because it's too easy to spoof. There are companies that will allow foreign companies to spoof for a fee.
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@sickburnbro If you have a company phone, they ask the company who it's assigned to, and find you. The goal is to be able to reach out and hit a real person behind the account. That's why the smart sites ban soft phone numbers like Google Voice, because anyone can get those anonymously.
You can get burner phones for cash too, for now, but that's a tiny segment of the market and relies on big mobile SIM cards anyway. Those carriers sometimes require personal verification before they give you a number too.
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@BroDrillard I mean you used to write them down anyway because you never knew if the numbers in your phone would transfer ok.
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But you had to remember the phone numbers of all of your frens.
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@PunishedD I haven't seen the process for what happens with the crypto ATMs that want a phone number. My guess is that if the info they pull doesn't match they just reject