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   harper :v_gqueer: (blueb@eepy.zone)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 00:51:13 JST harper :v_gqueer:

   • mia
   • Erin 💽✨

   @mia@void.rehab @erincandescent@erincandescent.net isnt suspending just updating the actor object like a regular profile edit? i know i’ve seen a suspended property on an actor before

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     Erin 💽✨ (erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.net)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 00:51:10 JST Erin 💽✨

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     • Erin 💽✨

     @blueb @mia In which case Akkoma probably needs to learn how to Undo(Delete(user)) because it does not

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     Erin 💽✨ (erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.net)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 00:51:12 JST Erin 💽✨

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     @blueb @mia I think its Delete(user)

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 00:54:38 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Erin 💽✨
     @erincandescent @blueb @mia And I guess Undo(Delete(user)) is the only Undo(Delete(_)) which makes sense.
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     Erin 💽✨ (erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.net)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 00:56:06 JST Erin 💽✨

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     • mia

     @lanodan @blueb @mia Although absolutely nobody sends or processes it as far as I can tell

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     Erin 💽✨ (erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.net)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 01:09:01 JST Erin 💽✨

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     @lanodan @blueb @mia honestly the weird behaviour here seems to be

     • that IceShrimp fires off the delete immediately, and
     • once an account becomes is_active: false in Pleroma nothing can trigger the instance to reconsider that
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 01:10:02 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @erincandescent @blueb @mia At the same time is_active is also used by admins/moderators to locally deactivate remote users…
     Which also means Undo(Delete(user)) would be a bit annoying to support.

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     Erin 💽✨ (erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.net)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 01:11:16 JST Erin 💽✨

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     • mia

     @lanodan @blueb @mia :floofScared: I love it when design decisions come back to haunt us

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     Erin 💽✨ (erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.net)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 01:13:12 JST Erin 💽✨

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     • mia

     @lanodan @blueb @mia eh its not an inherently ActivityPub issue; I’ve had similar variable overloading issues inside banks.

     if you ever let two code paths set the same variable one day you’ll find out its actually two variables

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 01:13:13 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @erincandescent @blueb @mia Quite all too familiar as ActivityPub is a bit too much of a natural language, although it's been few years since we hit this kind of issue.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 01:18:45 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @erincandescent @blueb @mia Yeah, just haven't really thought about remote account undeletion as usually accounts get wiped off.
     It's a bit like "Oh wow, we can undelete files now!"
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     Erin 💽✨ (erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.net)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 04:09:49 JST Erin 💽✨

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     @feld @blueb @lanodan @mia well The Defacto Protocol (i.e. What Mastodon Does) is suspend does nothing over the network; the 30 days later account purge broadcasts Delete(User) to shred them

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 17-Aug-2024 04:09:50 JST feld

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     • mia
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     @lanodan @erincandescent @blueb @mia why are suspended accounts being treated like deleted accounts though? that's so weird