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    Jake (formerly sjw) :lain_sneed: (j@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:02:16 JST Jake (formerly sjw) :lain_sneed: Jake (formerly sjw) :lain_sneed:
    If 1 million people sign a petition, a ban on rendering multiplayer games unplayable has a chance to become law in Europe

    A European initiative is now underway for videogame preservation and consumer protections against publishers "killing games."

    https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/if-1-million-people-sign-a-petition-a-ban-on-rendering-multiplayer-games-unplayable-has-a-chance-to-become-law-in-europe/
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      If 1 million people sign a petition, a ban on rendering multiplayer games unplayable has a chance to become law in Europe
      A European initiative is now underway for videogame preservation and consumer protections against publishers "killing games."
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      iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:02:15 JST iced depresso iced depresso
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      @j somewhat curious how the Euros are going to manage to fuck this up.
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:07:38 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      @icedquinn @j it should just always be legal to make an open source server for it
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:09:45 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      @icedquinn @j I could a requirement that your game has to be able to target a different server address on launch or something, that would be cool
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:25:22 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      @Pawlicker @j @icedquinn yes I was thinking of exactly this. it should be overturned
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      PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:25:23 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer PC-9801 Enjoyer
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      @sun @j @icedquinn NO CHILD, achtually it's evading drm and therefore illegal.
      https://www.eff.org/cases/blizzard-v-bnetd

      (Also when the people making the private servers are upstanding individuals into patreon culture like momo5502 and using proprietary licenses as a "if I can't have it nobody can" gambit, preservation takes an L)
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        Blizzard v. BNETD
        At issue in this case was whether three software programmers who created the BnetD game server -- which interoperates with Blizzard video games online -- were in violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and Blizzard Games' end user license agreement (EULA). BnetD was an open source...
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      PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:28:09 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer PC-9801 Enjoyer
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      @sun @j @icedquinn Before or after Josh gets his wish of neutral payment processors? (it won't happen because nobody gives a shit about video games in the government unless it's to censor them)
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:28:49 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      @j @Pawlicker @icedquinn who is this guy
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      Jake (formerly sjw) :lain_sneed: (j@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:28:50 JST Jake (formerly sjw) :lain_sneed: Jake (formerly sjw) :lain_sneed:
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      @Pawlicker @sun @icedquinn
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      iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:30:18 JST iced depresso iced depresso
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      @sun @j I had pondered mandating protocol publication, for the sake of things like phone controlled devices where there is no genuine public interest in the protocols being secret.

      for games it's weird because there is an interest in them being closed for a limited duration but once they should be opened everyone has already been fired and the media lost or buried in some billionaires forgotten warehouse. you'd need something like an escrow to hold and release the artifacts.

      just letting people crack at stuff is fine and all :blobcatpirate: but it's kinda limited
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:33:23 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      @icedquinn @j I have thought about the idea of, software companies putting their source code into like an escrowed account with the library of congress, to be released at some future point. there are numerous problems with this though, mainly that even I don't think it should be mandatory, I just think it's good to open source your stuff after even you've determined it's not economically viable anymore.

      a big problem with this is, capitalism treadmill. maybe a game has died but if you suddenly make it free then a lot of people will just play it forever and not buy your new thing. probably not that many people but enough to annoy the company
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      Jake (formerly sjw) :lain_sneed: (j@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:37:18 JST Jake (formerly sjw) :lain_sneed: Jake (formerly sjw) :lain_sneed:
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      @sun @Pawlicker @icedquinn
      https://www.tiktok.com/@neo.coom
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      Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:45:02 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff,  Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
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      @sun

      @icedquinn @j not a half bad idea. make it 'in order to qualify for copyright you must submit your source code to the copyright agency'.
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      iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 03-Aug-2024 00:01:18 JST iced depresso iced depresso
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      @sun @j i've seen some discussions why more studios haven't done it.

      partly it comes down to banks and external dependencies. you might be done with your game but unity isn't, and big businesses tend to buy frameworks and modules which are still commercially relevant even when the game isn't. it's like back when everybody bought speedtree--your daggerfall clone with six monthly active users might be dead but everyone is still buying speedtree.

      the other case was dolphin smalltalk that didn't open source for a long time after it died. they owned all the tech, but the debtlords were unwilling to let go until it was thoroughly proven they couldn't sell any aspect of an outdated script interpreter to anyone.
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      iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 03-Aug-2024 00:11:41 JST iced depresso iced depresso
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      @Pawlicker @j @sun to answer his questions its because video requires a massive amount of processing and storage and the brain is cheating with highly lossy storage mediums
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      PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Saturday, 03-Aug-2024 00:11:42 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer PC-9801 Enjoyer
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      @j @icedquinn @sun yeah tim soret's twitter feed is a goldmine every time you think that the last night was solely fucked over by the SJWs a quick look shows that honestly he wasn't all there to begin with, posting "techbro on DMT" style rants.
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      PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Saturday, 03-Aug-2024 00:11:44 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer PC-9801 Enjoyer
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      @j @icedquinn @sun indie game devs are like furry artists. They just bitch on Twitter and don't make games half the time.

      Remember Tim Soret? Remember The Last Night? I bet you that even some furry porn games are less stagnant in development.
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