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    Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:28:44 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell

    If — here's hoping, and I dare to hope — if we not only get a Harris presidency but Dem control of both houses of Congress, let's light a hell of a fire under our reps to slam the door shut on right-leaning minoritarian rule in the US.

    •That• is how we end up not fighting fascism by the skin of our teeth in every singly election in the near/medium term.
    #uspol https://ngmx.com/@sysadmin1138/112889505930426171

    In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:28:44 JST from hachyderm.io permalink

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:31:17 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      @sysadmin1138 To be clear, by “minoritarian rule,” I mean the situation where a specific subset of the country that is substantially less than a majority still manages to win elections & control policy.

      What stops that? Things like…
      - a new and stronger VRA (we were so close, but for Manchin & co)
      - a (more) proportional Senate
      - ending the filibuster
      - ending the EC (or finishing the NPVIC)
      - SCOTUS reform
      - etc etc

      #uspol

      In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:31:17 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:55:18 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Osteopenia Powers

      More on minority rule (ht @Osteopenia_Powers):
      #uspol
      https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/04/minority-rule-is-threatening-american-democracy-like-never-before/

      (Take a moment with that “scales of injustice” graphic.)

      In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:55:18 JST permalink

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:59:19 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • wasabi brain

      @virtualinanity @sysadmin1138
      “Biden then used manchin, sinema and the parliamentarian as an excuse to do nothing.”

      ☝️I have so little patience for bullshit like this.

      Biden went to bat for the new VRA. It came damned close. The idea that he had some magical lever he could have pulled and his failure to pull the magic lever reveals his true intention is just fucking nonsense. Presidents are not kings.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:59:19 JST permalink
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      wasabi brain (virtualinanity@toot.community)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:59:20 JST wasabi brain wasabi brain
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      @inthehands @sysadmin1138 during Obama tenure, they had both houses with more than enough dems to spare and he did nothing to advance voting rights. Then we got 2016. Base got energized and despite massive voter repression, again gained both houses and presidency in 2020. Biden then used manchin, sinema and the parliamentarian as an excuse to do nothing. And once again we find ourselves hoping that black and brown people put up with shitty laws and long waits to save us

      In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:59:20 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:01:09 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • wasabi brain

      @virtualinanity @sysadmin1138
      Now is there some better political strategy he could have used, some different way of playing his cards, to make Manema do it? To make Sinchin do •all• the things he desperately wanted for his legacy? Well, maybe. I don’t know what it is, but sure, maybe.

      But if so, that’s at most an indicator of strategic failure, not secret intent.

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      Rufus J. Cooter (rufusjcooter@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:04:24 JST Rufus J. Cooter Rufus J. Cooter
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      @inthehands Love all of these!
      Would add:
      - end disenfranchisement of convicts (so imprisoned people can vote, putting an end to districts where most/many of the 'residents' can't vote)
      - a 'Wyoming' rule, where any state that has fewer people than the most populous district in any other state, ceases to be a state, its territory to be divided among its neighbors, and borders to be redrawn accordingly.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:04:24 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:05:44 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Rufus J. Cooter

      @RufusJCooter
      I mean, I’m fine with Wyoming continuing to be a state as long as voters there stop getting TEN TIMES the Senate votes per person that I do.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:05:44 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:06:24 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Rufus J. Cooter

      @RufusJCooter
      IIRC, Dakota was originally created as two states specifically for some kind of gerrymandery purpose. I forget….

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      Rufus J. Cooter (rufusjcooter@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:06:25 JST Rufus J. Cooter Rufus J. Cooter
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      @inthehands I mean, honestly, at this point, what purpose does having two Dakotas serve? It's not like there's a big college basketball rivalry that driving a bunch of TV ad dollars...

      In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:06:25 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:15:42 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      As long as we’re tossing ideas out, here’s one of my (which to be clear is much less fundamentally important than the ones above, but could be a useful step if a proportional Senate is impossible):

      Instead of requiring 60 Senate votes to invoke cloture, require votes representing 50% of the US population. Basically, a majority of the country can filibuster something that a minority is trying to push through the Senate.

      Call it a “majority filibuster.”

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      Shannon Clark (rycaut@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:17:57 JST Shannon Clark Shannon Clark
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      @inthehands one option that doesn’t take anything radical like a new state or amendments would be to repeal the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reapportionment_Act_of_1929 which sets the 435 members of the House of Representatives based on the census of 1910. Resulting in each Representative representing wildly different numbers of people. If instead each Representative had closer to 250000 people in their district than over 750000 we would have closer to 1320ish Reps (likely a few more)

      Making the electoral college 1400+

      In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 13:17:57 JST permalink

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        Reapportionment Act of 1929
        The Reapportionment Act of 1929 (ch. 28, 46 Stat. 21, 2 U.S.C. § 2a), also known as the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929, is a combined census and apportionment bill enacted on June 18, 1929, that establishes a permanent method for apportioning a constant 435 seats in the U.S. House of Representatives according to each census. This reapportionment was preceded by the Apportionment Act of 1911, which established the 435-seat size, and followed nearly a decade of debate and gridlock after the 1920 Census. The 1929 Act took effect after the 1932 election, meaning that the House was never reapportioned as a result of the 1920 United States Census, and representation in the lower chamber remained frozen for twenty years. Unlike earlier Apportionment Acts, the 1929 Act neither repealed nor restated the requirements of the previous apportionment acts that congressional districts be contiguous, compact, and equally populated. It was not clear whether these requirements were still in effect until in 1932 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled in Wood v. Broom (1932) that the provisions...
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 14:46:55 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Jim Rea

      @provuejim
      None require a constitutional amendment except (1) the proportional senate (but see downthread re majority filibuster) and (2) fully abolishing EC instead of using NPVIC.

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      Jim Rea (provuejim@techhub.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 14:46:56 JST Jim Rea Jim Rea
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      @inthehands I’m all for these ideas, but how are you planning to get the necessary constitutional amendments passed?

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 15:04:07 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Jim Rea

      @provuejim
      Basic reform requires either 60 votes or filibuster elimination, I believe. Either way, no constitutional amendment needed; it’s only an act of Congress.

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      Jim Rea (provuejim@techhub.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 15:04:08 JST Jim Rea Jim Rea
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      @inthehands SCOTUS reform can be done with a bare majority? If so, cool, but. I’ll bet the current SCOTUS won’t agree. Of course SCOTUS invented their authority to judge the constitutionality of legislation over 200 years ago. In school I was taught that was a good thing, now I’m not so sure.

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      YetAnotherGeekGuy :verified: (yetanothergeekguy@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 16:42:43 JST YetAnotherGeekGuy :verified: YetAnotherGeekGuy :verified:
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      • Osteopenia Powers

      @Osteopenia_Powers @inthehands Misdiagnoses the problem with the Electoral College.

      The first problem is the winner-take-all perversion at the state level. And that doesn’t take a constitutional amendment to fix.

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      YetAnotherGeekGuy :verified: (yetanothergeekguy@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 16:56:47 JST YetAnotherGeekGuy :verified: YetAnotherGeekGuy :verified:
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      @inthehands
      No need for a constitutional amendment to eliminate the EC.

      Just stop the winner-take-all perversion at the State level. That’s only a class-action lawsuit away.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:27:06 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Osteopenia Powers

      @YetAnotherGeekGuy @Osteopenia_Powers
      Yeah, I don’t think the article mentions the NPVIC, which is too bad

      In conversation Friday, 02-Aug-2024 23:27:06 JST permalink

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