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   Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:30:37 JST Sick Sun
   trying to create a LoRa and it's like "install this tool" install tool and the interface doesn't resemble the usage instructions. This has happened like three times.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:32:10 JST Sick Sun

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     I have so much contempt for the state of affairs that result in such abominable software that I totally get why people conceal how they do anything
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:36:26 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @sun and, a direct consequence, why non-technical people are pissed off at AI generally
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:36:26 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @jeffcliff people are mad at AI because of the media rage factory, otherwise they wouldn't even really be aware of it
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:37:32 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @sun that too
     
     but it's a much easier target given how inaccessible it is
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:37:32 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @jeffcliff like yeah AI gets rammed into stuff but normally people just sigh and put up with it but they're being whipped up about this thing specifically
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:48:05 JST feld

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @sun @jeffcliff the media told them to hate it because they took claims made by companies to the extreme and then said "see, it doesn't even work right it's a scam" while ignoring that if it really was a scam product we have legal avenues to adjudicate it and allow the victims to be awarded damages
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:48:05 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @feld @jeffcliff I think they mean it's a scam like diet pills are a scam, and those generally are still legal but it's understood you're flushing your money down the toilet
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:48:20 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @feld @sun >while ignoring that if it really was a scam product we have legal avenues to adjudicate it and allow the victims to be awarded damages
     
     those legal avenues don't work so well with software
     
     and that's really the root of the problem
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:49:21 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @feld @jeffcliff how many people have been punished
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:49:22 JST feld

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @jeffcliff @sun it does work well, the FTC has even published a "fuck around and find out" guide:
     
     https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/02/keep-your-ai-claims-check
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:53:42 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @anemone @jeffcliff I won't say it's all of them but a lot of people on here are in computer professions but they are in a different special field and clearly don't know what they're talking about
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:53:43 JST anemone

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

     @jeffcliff@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world technical people are pissed off at AI, too

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:55:16 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @anemone @jeffcliff I am still trying to figure this out because you don't have to be a complete expert in something before you criticize it. but you should have some kind of basis for criticism beyond an adam conover video or something like that
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:56:11 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @feld @jeffcliff I don't think the current tech goes back further than like 2014. obviously neural nets were invented in the 50s but
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:56:12 JST feld

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @jeffcliff @sun that was not even close to being the same as the current crop of products and tech. You could go all the way back to ELIZA if you want to stretch it.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:56:13 JST feld

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @sun @jeffcliff we're only like 2 years into this so far. The hammer drops slowly, but with immense force when it makes contact. We have to wait longer to see who gets snared.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 02:56:13 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @feld @sun ehhh we're on year 8*. alphago was 2016.
     
     *i know what year it is >_>
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 04:21:52 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @anemone @jeffcliff I want to insult their ability and skill but clearly they understand machine learning at an insanely high level compared to me but they can't methodically make software for shit
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 04:21:53 JST anemone

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

     @sun@shitposter.world @jeffcliff@shitposter.world my criticism is the tooling all sucks ass because data scientists don't know how to do software properly