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   Matthew Garrett (mjg59@nondeterministic.computer)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 16:47:03 JST Matthew Garrett

   "We can't allow users to make use of non-free software, because they might think it's better and that would defeat the aims of free software" is *not* a flex

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 16:47:00 JST 翠星石

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     @mjg59 I don't know what you're even going on about.
     
     It is not the goal of the free software movement to restrict the users - the GNU OS will run any software that the user chooses to execute, although I myself would quite like it if I could set it to not run any proprietary software by default to save you from accidentally running it - alas there doesn't currently exist a suitable license tagging method like an elf header.
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     Matthew Garrett (mjg59@nondeterministic.computer)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 16:47:01 JST Matthew Garrett

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     Especially in this case, where it's not even non-free software, merely software under a license that allows non-free derivatives asdfjjkadfsadf

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 17:01:31 JST 翠星石

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     @mjg59 All I can say is based.
     
     I prefer the freedom of gdb to any cringe pushover licensed debugger.
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     Matthew Garrett (mjg59@nondeterministic.computer)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 17:01:32 JST Matthew Garrett

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     @Suiseiseki Emacs doesn't integrate with lldb because it's under a permissive license

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 17:06:07 JST 翠星石

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     • HateMonster (unofficial)
     @GAtheist123 It is very possible to survive without running proprietary software on your computer, although certain things are difficult due to proprietary sabotage (everything useful that can be done on a computer has almost always been done with free software first, although it's often the case that some business releases a proprietary implementation and ensures that you don't learn about the original).
     
     You think rms runs proprietary software?
     
     I'm sending this message to you without using proprietary software or JavaScript.
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     HateMonster (unofficial) (gatheist123@genderheretics.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 17:06:08 JST HateMonster (unofficial)

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     @Suiseiseki @mjg59 I like the idea in principle but it seems to me practically impossible to survive without using proprietary software. Especially non-free JavaScript
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 17:14:54 JST 翠星石

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     @mjg59 When it comes to the kind of software that has multiple implementations, I've found the best way to pick a winner is to check the license.
     
     The implementations that are (totally or mostly) under pushover terms almost always suck (i.e. BIND).
     
     But when I find one that proudly states that it is under the GPLv3-or-later (for example, KnotDNS), I know I've found the winner right away.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 17:17:08 JST 翠星石

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     @mjg59 Also, btw, I don't have LLVM or clang installed on my computer, as the license sucks and secondarily it takes way too long to compile and way too much RAM - while I love the license on GCC and it's quite pleasant to compile too.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 17:59:15 JST 翠星石

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     • HateMonster (unofficial)
     @GAtheist123 If it's a job, you should be running whatever malware they want ran on their computer, not yours.
     
     Banking is a problem, most payments are possible with cash.
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     HateMonster (unofficial) (gatheist123@genderheretics.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 17:59:16 JST HateMonster (unofficial)

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     @Suiseiseki I’m required to run proprietary software to do my job. My bank uses proprietary JavaScript on their website. I mean I could find a new job and do my banking in person but it all seems too hard..
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 18:00:41 JST 翠星石

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     • HateMonster (unofficial)
     @GAtheist123 If it's a job, you should be running whatever malware they want ran on their computer, not yours.
     
     Banking is a problem, but most payments are possible with cash and plastic notes are somewhat more reliable than a magic number on a computer that could be wiped out or taken from you anytime.