Ramesh #NotGoingBack
⬆️ @ariadne
>> are they paying me for the use of my computer to run their adshit? no? then it doesn’t need to run on my computer.
They are paying you in kind.
By running search engines, by running your email services, by providing storage for your documents and photos, by powering your blogs and social media, by giving you maps and directions, by translating ideas between languages, and in so many other ways — ALL of which cost money — that you DON’T PAY for.
Privacy is not FREE. Pay for it
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Ramesh #NotGoingBack
⬆️ @lanodan
>> Search engines… there is some without any ads…Email services there's a ton of alternatives…same shit for blogs…OpenStreetMap
YES! Use them to avoid ads. Simple. Use #Linux instead of #Windows, or pay up for #MacOS to avoid ads.
>> Social media? Not really applicable for the Fediverse. Advertisers aren't needed, they just are manipulators
Who pays for #Fediverse? #Mastodon costs money to run. If we don't pay, they WILL have to fall back on ads. Freeloaders spoil it for everyone
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Ramesh #NotGoingBack
⬆️ @lanodan
>>>> Advertisers aren't needed, they just are manipulators
>> Who pays for #Fediverse? #Mastodon costs money to run. If we don't pay, they WILL have to fall back on ads
>> Freeloaders spoil it for everyone
ONLY by paying you earn right to complain.
In a #MarketEconomy, paying for services also incentivizes development of alternatives to which you can switch to if/when a provider becomes abusive or manipulative.
For true manipulators, we need #AntiTrust. #LaissezFaire is #utopia
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Ramesh #NotGoingBack
⬆️ @lanodan
>> Yeah sure I'll inject ads on my own #Fediverse software…and sure people won't then flock en masse to other servers that they can run on a shoebox
Snark, and still miss the point 🙄
#Fediverse is massive infrastructure, not just your little shoebox. How many users do you host? How do YOU make a living? How do OTHERS on the back of whose work you run your shoebox make a living?
EVERYTHING needs external nourishment, from a simple biological cell to complex computing infrastructure
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Ramesh #NotGoingBack
⬆️ @lanodan
>>>> The massive point you're missing is that most of the Fediverse is ran like a charity
I'm not missing anything. You just missed what I already said in response to your earlier post:
>> Services don't NEED to work in market economies. They can be sponsored by donations from patrons & benefactors. But SOMEBODY has to pay. Freeloaders had no right to whine
The world does not run on charity alone. Charity is needed and is very helpful. Otherwise users, patrons, customers must pay
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Eragon
@lanodan FAI sans pubs ? Regarde Orange Faut croire qu'ils sont plus une banque qu'un FAI
Ramesh #NotGoingBack
⬆️ @lanodan
>> And people have been providing services on the internet as a hobby essentially since the beginning of it.
And interconnections on the internet effectively works as a massive zero-sum game
You sound like a child. How long have you been on the #Internet and how much of its history are you aware of?
#ARPANET was created by the #UnitedStates Department of Defense.
It was not a hobby 🙄
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
Ramesh #NotGoingBack
⬆️ @lanodan
Know that I am changing your Quiet-Public setting to Public for your posts where you put your immaturity & lack of knowledge for whole world to see?
Sooner or later, you will self-0wn.
> Freeloaders had no right to whine
>> By the way from my side of things, you're a freeloader :P
No, I am not. Research all of my posts in this thread and you will learn that I pay a monthly fee through Patreon to cover a part of #Mastodon cost
Nobody will miss you when you tire of your hobby 🤡
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