BeAware
I kinda really hate that Eugen is making his favorite activity of censoring people on Fedi, easier for other admins to join in as well...🤬
The hidden notifications "feature" for silenced users with no workaround to see who is trying to interact with you is toxic as fuck!😒
Open web, my ass. More like, "only open for me and people I like".
Jerry on Mastodon
@BeAware Naive me never even considered that the "limit" option could be used by an instance Admin to shadow-ban a user privately.
I find the feature useful and I have used it, perhaps 3 times, to limit a suspected spammer/scammer account until I could have a dialog with the account creator. But, in all cases, I notified them that I limited their account and explained the impact. I'd never limit (silence) an account secretly.
I think it is unethical for an instance owner to do so without notification to the account owner.
I don't know if it's truly happening on .social. I bet though there's a particular woman who does it often on her instance to her local accounts, but I won't mention her name. You know who I mean.
You always raise interesting questions.
BeAware
@Jerry it is happening. I have several follow relationships with people that are silenced there and weren't notified.
They don't do moderation notifications. They operate like Shitter, but without the ability to stop people from leaving.
People need to start leaving or Eugen will own Fedi before you know it.
Nobody will be able to say anything that goes against Eugen's beliefs...😒
Jerry on Mastodon
@BeAware
It's unethical Admin behavior, in my opinion, to shadow-ban.
I think I'll put a note about this in the "About" section for my instance to describe that Admins and moderators here are forbidden to shadow-ban (limit, silence) any account without notification to the account owner, a policy people should be aware that is not in effect on all instances.
Trust must work both ways to have an open working Fediverse.
I guess my only exception is that Threads accounts are all initially limited by default, and the limit is lifted on a per-Threads-account basis. But, this policy is made clear in my About section as well.
Jerry on Mastodon
Compuguy 🐱
@Jerry @BeAware Cool...having the face of Mastodon doing what sounds like "shadow banning" of Xitter. Cool cool cool /S
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Compuguy 🐱
Compuguy 🐱
@Jerry @BeAware I would add an exception for data scraping users. They aren't contributing to the #fediverse and don't need notice.
BeAware
@compuguy @Jerry those probably are just getting suspended. Except on .social! Eugen bans people talking about the Israel-Gaza conflict but allows data harvesting! Hurray!😒
Awakari has a few accounts there.
Sibshops
@BeAware is there a way to detect a shadow ban?
Sibshops
@BeAware how about if you make anoher account on the same or other instance?
Maybe there is a way to detect it that way.
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