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   Johannes Ernst (j12t@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 20-Jul-2024 05:44:57 JST Johannes Ernst

   We say that the #Fediverse is better than centralized social media platforms. I obviously believe that as well.

   But:

   Can we prove it? In ways that are not just anecdotal personal experience or beliefs, but with objective data? I'm looking for pointers.

   There are obviously many dimensions, from, say, higher "engagement" to reduced harassment and a thousand things in between. Who has good numbers on any of those? Would it be worthwhile to collect them somewhere?

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     Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 20-Jul-2024 05:44:52 JST Jenniferplusplus

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     @J12t
     I'm obviously not in these conversations. I'm just going based on what you said, "They are asking, in so many words: you are saying all sorts of good things about the Fediverse, where is the evidence that what you say is true?"

     Someone told someone else that the fediverse was good. Without knowing who any of these people are, or in what context this was said, the question is unanswerable.

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     Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 20-Jul-2024 05:44:54 JST Jenniferplusplus

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     @J12t Ok, then we'll go up a level and ask the question again. What claims have you made? Who did you make them to? What mission or criteria would they follow for funding decisions?

     This question just isn't answerable until you define good. Good for whom? Good in what way?

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     Johannes Ernst (j12t@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 20-Jul-2024 05:44:54 JST Johannes Ernst

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     • Jenniferplusplus

     @jenniferplusplus You are misunderstanding. I have not made any claims. I'm only attempting to collect what might exist roughly on the subject. So I'm looking for pointers, although I suspect I will end up with an empty set.

     Blaise Pabón - controlpl4n3 repeated this.
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     Johannes Ernst (j12t@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 20-Jul-2024 05:44:55 JST Johannes Ernst

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     • Jenniferplusplus

     @jenniferplusplus Many objectives. One obvious one: money. There are currently two not-for-profits out there (one I'm marginally involved in) attempting raise money for some activities that would undoubtedly be good for the Fediverse, from organizations that are in the business of funding things that are good for the world. They are asking, in so many words: you are saying all sorts of good things about the Fediverse, where is the evidence that what you say is true?

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     Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 20-Jul-2024 05:44:56 JST Jenniferplusplus

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     @J12t what would you hope to achieve using that proof?