Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   Phracker (phracker2art@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jul-2024 22:45:27 JST Phracker

   Today I came to the sobering realization that right-wingers can now repeal literally any law they don't like by just challenging it in a lower court and then appealing it all the way up to the Supreme Court. In this way, the SCOTUS is effectively acting as a legislative body. The system is broken. I don't think people realize just how fucked America is.

   #SCOTUS #SupremeCourt

   • Embed this notice
     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 19-Jul-2024 22:45:18 JST iced depresso

     in reply to

     • sj_zero
     • volkris
     @sj_zero @Phracker2Art @volkris
     > They're not politicians, they're judges
     
     difference being that you can punish politicians for having wrong opinions :blobcatgooglybadumtss:
     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     sj_zero (sj_zero@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 19-Jul-2024 22:45:19 JST sj_zero

     in reply to

     • volkris
     Part of the problem is that they're just tourists so they think the Republicans win every court case they get to scotus, which isn't true -- if SCOTUS was just an organ of the Republican party, Trump would be just about to finish his second term in office.
     
     Most people criticizing don't realize for example that the court has had an overwhelming number of cases that ended up being 7-0 recently, and there's cases where some liberal justices and some conservative justices combined to get a slim outcome. They're not politicians, they're judges and have a different view of the world. Under Trump most Republicans hated Roberts for example.
     
     Many such people think they would have opposed the Nazis if they were Germans in 1936, while loving who the establishment tells them to love and hating who the establishment tells them to hate and not realizing their behavior would have aligned them directly with the Nazis in Germany in 1936.
   • Embed this notice
     volkris@qoto.org's status on Friday, 19-Jul-2024 22:45:20 JST volkris

     in reply to

     @Phracker2Art No, that’s not how this works at all.

     It’s really the opposite, in fact.

     Recent rulings demand that laws be followed and not effectively repealed by the executive branch.

     So much misinformation out there these days, and this is an example of it. It’s the exact opposite of what it sounds like you’ve heard, so you need to stop listening to those people that are lying to you.

   • Embed this notice
     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 19-Jul-2024 23:06:36 JST iced depresso

     in reply to

     • sj_zero
     • volkris
     @volkris @Phracker2Art @sj_zero you cannot impeach a judge for having bad opinions. they have total immunity when acting within their mandate.
   • Embed this notice
     volkris@qoto.org's status on Friday, 19-Jul-2024 23:06:41 JST volkris

     in reply to

     • iced depresso
     • sj_zero

     @icedquinn

     No you can punish judges for being wrong. That’s why we have the impeachment option. It’s the entire point of that.

     @Phracker2Art @sj_zero

   • Embed this notice
     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 19-Jul-2024 23:13:57 JST iced depresso

     in reply to

     • sj_zero
     • volkris
     @volkris @Phracker2Art @sj_zero that isn't what those proceedings are for, and i suspect you either don't know that or you do know that and are knowingly advocating for clownshit
   • Embed this notice
     volkris@qoto.org's status on Friday, 19-Jul-2024 23:14:03 JST volkris

     in reply to

     • iced depresso
     • sj_zero

     @icedquinn

     Of course you can. They can impeach anybody for any reason. We elect our representatives, and the people that we choose to elect, we are hiring them to decide whether to impeach anybody. That’s one of the powers that they get with their offices.

     If you think they should have impeached but they didn’t, then hold them accountable for that. If you think they should not have impeached but they did, again, hold them accountable for that.

     The decision is purely up to them. They have that lever to pull if they want to and we hold them accountable for whether they do or they don’t.

     @Phracker2Art @sj_zero