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   Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 04:54:35 JST Jenniferplusplus

   I don't understand why everyone hates ORMs so much. It makes no sense. For any non-trivial project, you are all but guaranteed to want one. Probably sooner than you think. Why not just use one from the beginning that you know to be robust and well understood, instead of half reinventing the whole concept, ad-hoc, one query at a time?

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     Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫ (petealexharris@mastodon.scot)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 06:59:51 JST Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫

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     • Marco Rogers

     @jenniferplusplus @polotek

     (I hate ORMs and like databases)
     Nah, actually I hate that every time I've looked at using one, I've already done the DB design and the ORM just wants to fight me about it instead of being a nice wrapper that stays out of the way. Last time was a while ago now, so maybe it's not like that these days.

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     Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 06:59:52 JST Jenniferplusplus

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     • Marco Rogers

     @polotek it's true and you should say it

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     Marco Rogers (polotek@social.polotek.net)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 06:59:53 JST Marco Rogers

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     @jenniferplusplus hot take. People don't actually hate ORMs. They hate databases. But they can't actually get rid of the latter. 😂