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   Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 07:22:14 JST Paul Cantrell

   • Weltschmerz à Gogo

   I’ll second this from @ThatWeltschmerz, with a caveat / clarification:

   We •do• need more unity. •Anti-fascist• unity. https://kolektiva.social/@ThatWeltschmerz/112785890498707113

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 07:22:33 JST Paul Cantrell

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     My fantasy is that everyone even slightly left of fascist, from socialists to anarchists to anti-authoritarian laissez-faire capitalists (the few remaining, anyway) can shout at the top of their lungs over political ideals all day long, but the •second• a fascist walks in the door, everyone stops cold, pivots toward them with the synchronized motion of a dance troupe, and grabs the nearest chair.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 07:28:01 JST Paul Cantrell

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     And, all you folks who don’t want a full-scale national bar fight over fascism — which includes me, for the record — then let’s make our unity about not letting things get to that point in the first place, mmmkay?

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 07:31:28 JST Paul Cantrell

     • Camilo

     @cam Again, I am agreeing with the quoted post, while clarifying that it’s not unity itself that’s bad, but rather the wrong kind of unity. Unity with whom? Unity for what? That’s the question.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 07:44:06 JST Paul Cantrell

     • Camilo

     @cam
     I’d say it’s under ongoing active negotiation, in this and every election these days and in many things besides elections, and will be for a generation.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 12:08:47 JST Paul Cantrell

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     No. To hell with this nihilism. I’m here to help make the world better, because we can and because it matters.

     https://infosec.exchange/@gary_alderson/112787964378598626

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 15:20:28 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Charles J Gervasi ⚡🛡️🥥
     • Weltschmerz à Gogo

     @cgervasi @ThatWeltschmerz
     Everybody gets close to some version of authoritarianism when their thinking gets too utopian: if you believe you have the one unique truth that will save the world, isn’t it only rational to force everyone to follow it? That’s why we need these many useful perspectives in tension. (Fascism not being a useful perspective, just brain poison)

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     Charles J Gervasi ⚡🛡️🥥 (cgervasi@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 15:20:29 JST Charles J Gervasi ⚡🛡️🥥

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     • Weltschmerz à Gogo

     @inthehands @ThatWeltschmerz I agree: "anti-fascist unity". I'm only of those few remaining people who leans anti-authoritarian laissez-faire capitalism. I'm concerned that hardcore socialists get close to fascists on the horseshoe, but we're all allies against fascism. We're all polarized against those for whom cruelty is the point.

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     Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. (boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 10:45:55 JST Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

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     @inthehands I don't think that line is as clear/bright as it would need to be for that action.

     A extremely normal opinion of "I think we should use taxes to fund more police patrols of this area where the crime rate is higher than normal that I have to travel through." gets slapped with the fascist label.

     And whether that label is correct or not (it _probably_ is), if you exclude all those people, you are outvoted, outnumbered, and out-gunned.

     Maybe I'm wrong (or a fascist?).