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    Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jul-2024 12:26:46 JST Church of Jeff Church of Jeff

    The underlying purpose of AI is to allow wealth to access skill while removing from skill the ability to access wealth.
    #ai #generativeAI

    In conversation about 11 months ago from mastodon.world permalink
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      Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jul-2024 18:52:32 JST Church of Jeff Church of Jeff
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      • Bart Louwers

      @bart - Physicists are not taking away livelihoods. What you are glossing over and hiding is that every profession you mentioned are not creating machines that steal content to commodify production and deny the rewards for making the original content to those original creators.
      Why is that so hard for you to understand?
      Considering how you're glossing over this fact, your entire interaction here is pretty disingenuous.
      And SOME questionable actors? You don't see it is an entire industry of theft

      In conversation about 11 months ago permalink
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      Bart Louwers (bart@floss.social)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jul-2024 18:52:33 JST Bart Louwers Bart Louwers
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      @jeffowski #AI is an academic field of endeavour first. Just because there is some grifting and questionable actors now does not mean you can write it and all people involved in it off like that.

      That is like saying Physics is a scam because people were peddling perpetuum mobila, writing of medicine because people are peddling miracle cures or writing off Computer Science because of the dot-com boom.

      In conversation about 11 months ago permalink
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      Ralf (mrrulf@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jul-2024 18:55:39 JST Ralf Ralf
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      @jeffowski it just allows people to do more stuff with the same level of skill. Every tool does/did that. Just look how many people can edit Videos today and how few were able to 20 years ago. U need way less skill to edit a video today, its more accessible. I dont see where ai differs from other things.

      In conversation about 11 months ago permalink
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      Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jul-2024 18:55:39 JST Church of Jeff Church of Jeff
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      • Ralf

      @mrrulf -- Because it is trained on content created by real people and these companies have stolen it without compensation to the original human artists.
      Think about everything you've ever done and having it stolen and copied and produced by a machine without any compensation and in direct competition for your future art, which it will steal too.
      How do you call that justice?

      In conversation about 11 months ago permalink
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      Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jul-2024 19:08:52 JST Church of Jeff Church of Jeff
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      • Bart Louwers

      @bart https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112784252065543383

      In conversation about 11 months ago permalink

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        Aral Balkan (@aral@mastodon.ar.al)
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        A corporation will pay the least amount it can get away with for labour. If that number is zero, then that number is zero. Understand that and you understand slavery (both modern-day and historical), the prison-industrial complex, open source (not free software), privatisation, conservatism, and much else about the world around you.
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      Bart Louwers (bart@floss.social)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jul-2024 19:08:54 JST Bart Louwers Bart Louwers
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      @jeffowski My sister is an illustrator and graphic designer so I am very well aware of the unfairness regarding commercial generative AI systems. I think the jury is still out if they are really taking away jobs. My point is though, that reinforcement learning from human feedback used by these systems is not equivalent to 'AI', in fact, it is a (academically speaking) a tiny subfield within a subfield of AI.

      In conversation about 11 months ago permalink
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      oldguycrusty (oldguycrusty@mastodon.world)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 00:06:41 JST oldguycrusty oldguycrusty
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      @jeffowski

      Nailed it.

      In conversation about 11 months ago permalink
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      Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jul-2024 09:26:26 JST Church of Jeff Church of Jeff
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      • KM6ECC

      @km6ecc -- Lawyering and Doctoring is also in jeopardy. People just don't understand.

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      KM6ECC (km6ecc@mastodon.radio)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jul-2024 09:26:27 JST KM6ECC KM6ECC
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      @jeffowski that is true. It is also true, advise your students to be an expert in something AND to be able to train their own networks for the data science going to that something. Because even sex work is going to be obviated by AI sex dolls.

      In conversation about 11 months ago permalink
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      arceuthobium (theothersimo@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Sep-2024 01:09:19 JST arceuthobium arceuthobium
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      • Bart Louwers

      @bart @jeffowski unless it’s reducing labor costs how can there ever be an economic case for it?

      In conversation about 9 months ago permalink
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      Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Thursday, 26-Sep-2024 01:09:19 JST Church of Jeff Church of Jeff
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      • arceuthobium

      @theothersimo @bart -- Here is a thought experiment you should consider:
      If the US Federal Tax income was coming mostly from businesses in the 1950's, and there has been a major shift in automation and robotics in manufacturing and customer service, etc.
      And there has been a major shift in tax income away from corporations and onto the workers...
      So if corporations aren't paying taxes and the burden is shifted to the workers, and the corporations are getting rid of workers...
      Who's paying taxes?

      In conversation about 9 months ago permalink
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      Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 05:06:25 JST Church of Jeff Church of Jeff
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      • Old Man in the Shoe

      @jenzi -- can you elaborate?

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Old Man in the Shoe (jenzi@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 05:06:26 JST Old Man in the Shoe Old Man in the Shoe
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      @jeffowski skilled people can't use AI, won't

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Joanna Bryson, blathering (j2bryson@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 15:30:03 JST Joanna Bryson, blathering Joanna Bryson, blathering
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      @jeffowski I think that's what corporations do and not special to AI. We use unions, civil society, and government to compensate. See also though https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/tops.12682 which in the end agrees with you. #AIEthics

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink

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      Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Saturday, 05-Apr-2025 06:58:28 JST Church of Jeff Church of Jeff
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      • boredsquirrel

      @Rhababerbarbar --

      Comic by https://linktr.ee/Tragicgirlsco

      #AI #GenerativeAI #AIisTheft

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink

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        @tragicgirlsco | Instagram, TikTok | Linktree
        Linktree. Make your link do more.
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      boredsquirrel (rhababerbarbar@tux.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Apr-2025 06:58:30 JST boredsquirrel boredsquirrel
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      @jeffowski

      Insane how AI companies can just scrape and scrape and... nothing happens? This is INSANE.

      I can't share movies how I want, because distributing it would somehow infringe copyright... but they can literally just consume the content and sell it as their own, which is in no way traceable to the origin, and that is fine?

      Btw, quoting Facebook is like not doing it. Not in control of the platform, might be gone tomorrow

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink

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