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    Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 02:11:34 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell

    Wow, feelings about Biden have really reached a fever pitch in my TL.

    It’s disheartening. The anti-fascist coalition in the US is so incredibly fragile, and now seems to be coming apart at the seams before the election is even in full gear.

    And if we learned one thing from the French elections, it’s that defeating fascism in an election hinges on holding that coalition.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 02:12:25 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      Look, people:

      If you think Biden should drop out, I do not think that you personally are an “op.”

      If you think Biden should stay in, I do not think that you’re foolish or dooming us all.

      I think this candidate selection is •always• fraught, a huge gamble, and our desperate need for certainty, for the future to be OK, is sending our feelings straight to 11 out of 10.

      However we hash this moment out, we need to come out the other side shoulder to shoulder.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 02:20:18 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      My personal feelings? I have a lot of concerns about Biden as a candidate, which are largely the same concerns I had back in 2020: the endless gaffes and fumbles, the way support for him seems to crumble under pressure. I underestimated him then, and maybe I am now too.

      I’m extremely skeptical of the logistics of switching candidates now — especially given the catastrophic track record of ditching an incumbent for a last-minute replacement at a brokered Democratic convention in Chicago.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 02:27:15 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      If we keep Biden, we’re going to have to face the reality of defending a candidate who’s already saddled with a hostile press narrative and whose his foot is always in his mouth.

      If we try to swap, we’re going to have to face the reality of either (1) defending the clear replacement, a Black woman, to a misogynistic anti-Black electorate, or (2) accepting (in all likelihood) a •far• less progressive candidate — yes, really — who’s a wild card.

      We have a very tough fight ahead either way.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 02:32:08 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      The one thing here I do have clear feelings about is mistrusting the energy behind this “Biden must go” push. The press is pursuing it with an activist zealotry that suggests to me that the folks in charge of NYT, CNN, etc — who, let’s be clear, are •not• our friends — really, really want this story dominating the news, at the expense of…what? our unity? coverage of the SCOTUS laying out the red carpet for dictatorship?

      That press push is coming from •somewhere• with a sinister edge.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 02:34:17 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      I think it’s possible for one to mistrust the national press and its froth-mouthed coverage regardless of whether one thinks Biden should stay or go. And I think it’s possible to hash out diverging opinions about electoral tactics while keeping our eye on our real goal — defeating a terrifying surge of fascism in the US — and staying unified in pursuit of that goal.

      Can we do that? I think we can do that. We have to.

      /end

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      Aaron Sawdey, Ph.D. (acsawdey@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 05:46:12 JST Aaron Sawdey, Ph.D. Aaron Sawdey, Ph.D.
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      @inthehands This has very much the same "we're being railroaded" vibe as the run-up to the 2003 gulf war 😕

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 05:46:12 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Aaron Sawdey, Ph.D.

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      Very much agreed, and that’s something we all can recognize and counteract regardless of our opinion about Biden.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 06:11:37 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • 🔏 Matthias Wiesmann

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      I had multiple people in my TL predicting with angry confidence that the far right would surge to power in France because Macron would refuse to encourage center voters to vote strategically.

      Both parts of that prediction turned out to be wrong.

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      🔏 Matthias Wiesmann (thias@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 06:11:38 JST 🔏 Matthias Wiesmann 🔏 Matthias Wiesmann
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      @inthehands One similarity I see with the french situation is the suspicion that one party, or one faction thereof is unwilling to put its own ambitions away for the common good… Left wing candidates sacrificed themselves, those from the center, less…

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      knowuh (knowuh@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 06:12:32 JST knowuh knowuh
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      @inthehands what I don’t understand is why we think we can alter the mind of anyone voting MAGA — like do we have to choose a white man because Trump people are vile racist supporters of the patriarchy?

      Seems like we should just choose our people without having to compromise our core values.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2024 06:12:32 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      @knowuh
      I’m sympathetic to the •feeling•, but as a •strategic thought•, that is dangerously incorrect. There very much are people on the Trump/Biden fence who are persuadable. They just aren’t the people you’re picturing.

      I wrote about one such group here: https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112757554897957243 There are others.

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        Paul Cantrell (@inthehands@hachyderm.io)
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        To all the people out there chiming on and on with “There’s no point in any further negative coverage of Trump, it won’t influence anyone, his people are brainwashed and will never change their minds:” Remember that a poll in May found that 17% of swing state voters wrongly think that •Biden• ended abortion rights. Imagine! This election turns, among other things, on people who are paying •no attention whatsoever•: https://www.inquirer.com/columnists/attytood/biden-voters-low-information-trump-red-lobster-rigged-polls-20240521.html

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