A few growing pains/early mistakes/Mastodon notes:
1) Don’t look for the biggest or most popular server to join. You can find the same people and do the same things from all of them so pick any and migrate later. Chances are, there’ll be a new one that’s a better fit in a few days — I just joined a journo one!
2) Migrating is not immediate. There are currently two of my accounts that should merge soon.
3) Let’s not bring the worst of Twitter behavior on here. What are some things we don’t want?
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Veronika Bondarenko (veronika@journa.host)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 04:31:50 JST Veronika Bondarenko -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 04:31:45 JST djsumdog What are some things we don’t want?
You. We seriously don’t want you. You’re all crying because your cesspool of government propaganda, authoritarianism and hate gets bought out by the world’s richest African (who gave you electric cars) and now you’re crying like the world is going to end and you gotta leave Twitter.
Then you come busting into this new place without understanding it and immediately posting stuff showing how little you understand.
Back in the 90s, you started talking moron in a chat room and you’d get kicked. You should go in, watch, observe, see how people interact and then say things. Now we’re seeing this massive influx of people acting like their refugees because their favorite Child Drag Show Friendly Starbucks got bought out by a Christian who put a bible or two on the magazine rack!
Honestly, this is like new years day at the gym; filled with people you won’t see again after two weeks.
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Noided ° ^ ° (noided@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 04:44:04 JST Noided ° ^ ° @veronika maam do you squirt Khan (pernias brother) and twl like this. -
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Veronika Bondarenko (veronika@journa.host)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 04:44:05 JST Veronika Bondarenko 5, Continued) Some think it’s the liberal version of Parler but I’m already seeing the spectrum. Should we try to dispel false narratives or simply use it and see who hops over?
6) This is THE TIME to fill a niche and establish a presence. If you’ve ever wanted a stronger audience and online presence that didn’t take off on Twitter or Instagram, now is the time to be interesting on here.寮 repeated this. -
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Veronika Bondarenko (veronika@journa.host)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 04:44:06 JST Veronika Bondarenko 4) It’s hard but let’s try not to think of Mastodon as a “Twitter replacement.” The interface and communication style are very similar, yes, but we should move away from thinking “why doesn’t it have X THING TWITTER HAS” and think about functions we need.
5) I don’t want to turn into an evangelist but I’m seeing a lot of misconceptions about Mastodon on Twitter. Many think it’s hard to use (um, it’s a new site built by volunteers that’s growing at lightning speed, what can you expect?) #mastodon -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 05:11:18 JST Alex Gleason Did someone say journalists on fedi? -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 10:57:21 JST djsumdog Bullying is really more effective. We learned to stand up for ourselves as kids (or just get beat up a lot), not cry to the jannies. arcanicanis likes this. -
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Hyolobrikator (hyolobrika@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 10:57:22 JST Hyolobrikator @djsumdog
>Back in the 90s, you started talking moron in a chat room and you’d get kicked
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that janny attitude doesn't work on a decentralised network.
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?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 10:57:22 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? @Hyolobrika @djsumdog @veronika No instead we laugh at them -
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?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 11:04:26 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? @veronika which pokemon do you think has the cutest paws, I think Absol does ? 寮 likes this. -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 11:28:47 JST djsumdog It is interesting she calls it a “new” platform .. another instance of people not understanding that this alternative has been here for a long damn time. Also, great history breakdown .. going back to the pumpio days too!
Unfortunately she’ll never see your post. She seems to have deleted the originals ? .. does Pleroma not respect deletes? That is one thing I hate about Mastodon; all the broken threads. The nice thing about the fedi is things can get mirrored far and wide.
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Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 06-Nov-2022 11:28:48 JST Bricky @veronika I'm going to push back against points 5 and 6.
The Fediverse (Mastodon is but one aspect) has received funding while you weren't looking. Mastodon has received money from the EUnomia Project and has been the main force behind a 'standard' colloquially referred to as the 'Mastodon API'. Every other Fediverse platform, such as Pleroma and Misskey, has to comply with said 'standard' in order to guarantee some level of inter-operability even if some of the design decisions are backwards.
Pleroma has also received funding as well, but is not fully transparent or traceable. It's believed freelancer work was paid for by Leonid Radvinsky, the guy behind MyFreeCams. I'll spare the details, but the point is the implication that these platforms were built by volunteers doesn't tell the full story. It was originally to advance federated social networking beyond Friendica, Identica, GNU Social and pump.io, but somehow became a big deal when ActivityPub became a W3C Recommendation in 2018.
On your other point, the Fediverse was a means of getting away from platforms out to make you the product through advertising, brands and 'influencers'. Those who've been around long enough to see this space rise to prominence have also seen communities homogenised, thanks to Mastodon specifically, when the first media wave in 2016 hit. People then were using the platform like Twitter, such as Will Wheaton, who disappeared weeks later. Andrew Yang made the Fediverse an outreach platform for his election campaign in 2020, only to disappear after he was eliminated. Another thing to keep in mind is the #FediBlock crowd who make it an aim to defederate from 'problematic' targets, basically creating their own bubble and defeating the point of being here.
As a wise instance admin once said, we were here before you and will be here to see you leave. Treating this space as a means of 'filling a niche' and 'establishing a presence' is what made platforms like Twitter insufferable in the first place; a sense of inorganic interactions and using the public square to sell yourself as someone who's supposed to be important. We have our own e-celebs here but it's because they're actually interesting, they didn't need to advertise themselves to us about why they deserve our attention.
TL;DR - Have meaning discussions, make friends, foster a community. Stop self-indulging over the thought you must be 'somebody' here. We don't give a fuck.
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