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   new me new me (lebronjames75@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jul-2024 05:41:44 JST new me new me
   Did i understand correctly that the us supreme court said that "it's legal for us to accept any bribes"and also that "no agencies have any authority in any state, meaning that if Congress does not pass into law something like (do not dump toxic waste in a random lake), any company can just do that with n no legal consequence?
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jul-2024 05:41:44 JST Sick Sun

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     @lebronjames75 the latter is kind of true but they did it to themselves by grossly abusing the privilege.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 13:45:19 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @sun @lebronjames75 it's not even kind of true. agencies can still interpret the law and their interpretation will generally still be upheld. the only difference is that, before, the courts had to defer to the agencies as long as their interpretations was in any way defensible, even if the court itself disagreed with it. So 'do not dump toxic waste in random lake' is something that is not changed by the verdict at all, but 'strings are machine guns' probably is.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 13:47:40 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @sun @lebronjames75 I think these 'supreme court' mechanisms are retarded though, german supreme court will dig up new human rights every few years that essentially become law that can't be overturned.
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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 13:50:38 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     New Chevron ruling basically struck down unaccountable agencies from being their own legislature, court, and enforcement arms. That's the best way to explain the basics to people. There was a separate ruling just before this that struck down a lot of administrative court power.

     Now they just need to whack FISA courts... but 3 leftists + 3 deep staters vs 3 conservatives means that's unlikely.

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     new me new me (lebronjames75@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 13:57:03 JST new me new me

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     @lain @sun i mean what you say makes sense
     But combining that info with the "bribes are now fine for all state officials" makes me rather skeptical that it's not a worst of both worlds solution
     A type of "small corps will still be fucked by mystery regulations, while big corps can just overrule most regulations with lawyers and bribes" is what i am reading out of all the replies
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 13:57:03 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @lebronjames75 @sun this is already the case, they are all criminals
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 15:06:55 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @Zettour @lebronjames75 @sun i don't see how they are de-facto illegal. goldman-sachs paid hillary clinton 600k for one speech. biden's son got at least 400k for a fake board seat in burisma. and the 'other side' (haha) is of course not one iota better. none of it is being persecuted in any way, before or after.
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     Zettour (zettour@gearlandia.haus)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 15:06:56 JST Zettour

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     @lebronjames75 @lain @sun Bribes are still illegal, you can't induce someone to do an activity. What you could do is later hire them as a highly paid speaker at some company event you have later; it's because of the activity but the politician did not know it was directly contingent on their actions at the time of action so it is allowed.
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     guizzy (guizzy@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 02:37:43 JST guizzy

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     @lain @Zettour @lebronjames75 @sun Another obvious way they do it is with publishing contracts. "Writers" (who rarely write their own books anyway) get an arbitrarily big advance payment from the publisher, who then collects from any number of contributors (companies, non-profits, etc) in the form of large orders of the book, usually then given away to employees or clients.
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