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   Dr. Lucky Tran :verified: (luckytran@med-mastodon.com)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 04:34:52 JST Dr. Lucky Tran :verified:

   In France, the left coalition comes in first, Macron second, the far-right third. The best way to defeat fascism is not centrism, it’s a strong left.

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 04:34:51 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     @luckytran if so called “centrists” simply practiced solidarity with the most vulnerable and voted left, the right would never win. And yet

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     nonlinear (nonlinear@social.praxis.nyc)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 10:09:38 JST nonlinear

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     @Magooish @seachanger @luckytran Alliances should be questioned. Specially when said allies invest in genocide. It's time to divest.

     I guess we're talking about leftist win in France. The fact that there's an appetite for leftism, and not just centre-right disguised as left. That left doesn't need to make alliances that dilute their ideals.

     Alliances are not the goal and should *always* be rethought and renegotiated. At this point left allying with liberals *detracts* from their goals.

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     Dimples (magooish@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 10:09:39 JST Dimples

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     @nonlinear @seachanger @luckytran not all alliances are easy, or comfortable and often are created for a singular purpose and then disbanded. I think for me I see them as needing prioritization. Some issues ( climate change, abortion, immigration) are higher on the list than others and therefore need as many pushing them forward as possible, even if I find their other issues untenable.

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     nonlinear (nonlinear@social.praxis.nyc)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 10:09:40 JST nonlinear

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     @Magooish @seachanger @luckytran Yes we need to forge alliances. Purity politics won't help us.

     But we should also divest from false alliances.

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     Dimples (magooish@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 10:09:41 JST Dimples

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     @nonlinear @seachanger @luckytran Allie’s don’t always agree on everything, so I’m always curious when someone says something like this in light of a positive win, who do you see as an ally? What for you constitutes an alliance?

     Relationships are not perfect or lock step. But they do help one another achieve what neither can do alone.

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     nonlinear (nonlinear@social.praxis.nyc)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 10:09:41 JST nonlinear

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     @Magooish @seachanger @luckytran True. I meant liberals are not allies *of the left*.

     They are certainly allies of corporatists. Fascists even. Anyone is an ally of some other at some point so I should have specified.

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     nonlinear (nonlinear@social.praxis.nyc)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 10:09:42 JST nonlinear

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     @seachanger @luckytran Centrists don’t want to win. They want to receive bribes by playing the ineffective good cop “I tried but the bad guys are so bad”

     Frankly they are paid to lose every once in a while so we can go further right, by a pretend pendular movement.

     Liberals are not allies of the left.