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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 02:48:41 JST feld
   I just want to know whose fucking idea it was to schedule the DNC convention and debates AFTER the cutoff for the candidates to be officially on ballots in several states.
   
   As far as I know there weren't state laws changed to make this happen; it's been this way for a long time. So literally the DNC (and GOP) have been sleepwalking their hand-picked candidates (pretend the Primary matters if it makes you sleep better) into elections because they didn't think it would be possible that their patsy could be too old, too ill, or too unqualified.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 03:13:55 JST Sick Sun

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     @feld I mean you know the answer, they are not so stupid that this snuck up on them. They did it to destroy challenges to their weak incumbent. what's the alternative explanation that doesn't assume completely unrealistic incompetence at every level.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 03:27:16 JST Sick Sun

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     @feld I think this was because in the past companies would more blatantly prevent organized laborers from voting using work schedules.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 03:27:17 JST feld

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     I'm digging through historical Wisconsin state statutes and the June 1st 5pm cutoff has existed since at least 1967. Previous to that the entire election section appears to have been rewritten / reorganized and I'm having trouble finding the equivalent to S8.15.1
     
     https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/1967/statutes/statutes/8.pdf
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 03:27:17 JST feld

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     speaking of that, Wisconsin used to have even MORE progressive voting laws than we do today. It used to be illegal to make laborers work during the afternoon of an election in a first-class city
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 03:34:11 JST feld

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     @sun yep, so they've known about this for ~60 years and kept the same circus schedule hoping nothing bad would ever happen.
     
     Completely irresponsible.
     
     Support candidates, not the parties. Give these evil, lecherous, cancerous parties zero support. They are an APT* on our democracy.
     
     *Advanced Persistent Threat, an "apt" name for them don't you think?
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 04:07:25 JST feld

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     @sun you have to consider that one of the pillars of the old organized labor revolution was almost spontaneously founded in Wisconsin and movements later spread from there. I'm sure some laws were enacted over time that later were chipped away at.
     
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_View_massacre
     
     https://www.pioneertribune.com/articles/the-timberworkers-strike-of-1920/
     
     Milwaukee Road strike of 1920 (before the great railroad strike in 1922)
     
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Milwaukee_brewery_strike
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     Chris ABRAHAM (chris@abraham.su)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 20:23:01 JST Chris ABRAHAM

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     @feld
     Because it's almost always been only a formality—also, leverage.

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