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   NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi: (neonpurplestar@outerheaven.club)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 05:58:30 JST NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi:

   • Erik Uden 🍑
   @ErikUden this not only overdramatic, but also not true at all
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     NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi: (neonpurplestar@outerheaven.club)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 06:09:23 JST NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi:

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     • Erik Uden 🍑
     @ErikUden the fact of the matter is the following
     
     Trump has understood that if you are going to lie, lie big, and let your underlings figure out the details. Journalists can try to catch up, but then trump follows up every time with a new series of outrageous lies, and he has lied so much by now, that he lives in an entirely different reality.
     
     The press needs their drama and whatever shit to print articles, but they just cannot touch trump, because he will lie again. So in the end, the press will just take a shit on biden for literally ANYTHING, to just print articles. And they just keep doing this shit, they will attack biden again and again and again.
     
     Whether you like it or not, biden IS the defender of democracy in the usa right now. The least we can do, is at least show a little appreciation, instead of dogpiling with the rest of media.
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     Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 06:09:24 JST Erik Uden 🍑

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     @NeonPurpleStar It's not about losing entirely, but not come into power in order to be able to fulfill their promises. The reasoning behind this is explained pretty well using historical anectdotes and explains a lot of the behavior of the democratic party (such as with Bernie Sanders in 2016/2020).

     So, what part of the statements mentioned in the video are false? My simplification of a title obviously couldn't convey the entire idea.

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     kami_kadse (kami_kadse@don.linxx.net)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 06:09:40 JST kami_kadse

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     • Erik Uden 🍑

     @ErikUden @NeonPurpleStar

     it's conspiracy shit aimed at demobilizing democratic voters and you're spreading it

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     NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi: (neonpurplestar@outerheaven.club)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 06:12:28 JST NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi:

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     • Erik Uden 🍑
     @kami_kadse @ErikUden the press did same with hillary at the time, when she exited a van being somewhat ill
     
     they kept saying that she has cancer and she will not live long, so we can't elect her
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     NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi: (neonpurplestar@outerheaven.club)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 06:18:43 JST NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi:

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     • Erik Uden 🍑
     @ErikUden i did watch the video, my point is that this is still propaganda aimed at demoralising democratic party support and it's really not a good idea to do this kind of thing
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     Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 06:18:44 JST Erik Uden 🍑

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     @NeonPurpleStar This video was released on the 12th of December 2023. It goes beyond the current slander of Joe Biden and analyzes the past 100 years of U.S. politics as well as the significant change in behavior both parties showed in the 1980s. I highly recommend you watch it, because I agree with what you're saying, because it's not what I'm arguing against.

     Also I edited the title because you were right, it was misleading!

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     Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 06:36:01 JST Erik Uden 🍑

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     @NeonPurpleStar well, the video in itself doesn't even provide a solution, it just provides an alternative explanation as to why so many progressive and well-polling candidates inside the democratic party (such as Bernie Sanders both 2016 and 2020) have been prevented even though they would've been the best option against fascism.

     As I explained previously in the thread: I think it's still OK to vote for the democratic party. As long as you're honest to yourself, honest to your voters or the people you're convincing! Be real about the fact that this is harm reduction, be truthful that this person has their flaws. We're not a cult of personality, we can encourage critical thinking, and if we want to get out of this struggle we have to think outside of elections, all the while not losing track of the power parliaments provide.

     I can fully understand if you deem any criticism of the Democratic Party, in times like these, like rats cannibalising one another on a sinking ship. I believe in voters, though. If you promise the world and deliver nothing then you've only delivered disappointment. If you honestly explain why the system is fucked but you still need to vote for this guy in order for the worse guy to not win, then people will work on fixing this system outside of the elections and still vote.

     Just think of France! Every radical leftist still votes for Macron in order to prevent Le Pen. They know that he's not good, they vote for him only to protest against him on the streets the day after. After years of this struggle we have the Nouveau Front Populaire in order for there to not only he the option between Le Pen and Macron but a third, better option.

     No voter needed to be deceived, fascism was prevented, and a long-term solution was worked on! This can work, all it needs is a change in strategy.

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     NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi: (neonpurplestar@outerheaven.club)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 06:43:23 JST NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi:

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     • Erik Uden 🍑
     @ErikUden it's not that i see any wrong with what you say
     
     i just think that this is a fact of life, that harm will always be there, and asking to completely eliminate it can only be a means of sabotage for a party
     
     even the notion of economy is harmful, because it means one dominates the other in the competition
     
     so, do we shut down our economies entirely?
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     Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉 (darcher@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 06:49:05 JST Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉

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     • Erik Uden 🍑

     @NeonPurpleStar what do you suppose is motivating that person to deliberately demoralize democratic party support? Is it just to get views? Are they secretly on the side of the fascists? Something else altogether?

     @ErikUden

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     • Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉
     @darcher @ErikUden i have never used tiktok and have no idea what people do over there
     
     the thing i am going to defend to my grave is that, if there an OBVIOUSLY better option in a winner takes all system, let's just not overthink it, and just vote for that better option
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     NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi: (neonpurplestar@outerheaven.club)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 07:08:31 JST NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi:

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     • Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉
     @darcher @ErikUden i really have a gut feeling that you are trying to poke response from me for a gotcha moment
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     Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉 (darcher@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 07:08:32 JST Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉

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     • Erik Uden 🍑

     @NeonPurpleStar right, but I'm not asking anything to do with tiktok or what the best option is.

     You said that person was engaged in deliberately anti-Dem propaganda. I'm curious what you think about why they're doing that. Do you think they're getting paid? Are they angry that Democrats aren't doing something they want done? What's your preferred explanation for that?

     @ErikUden