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   BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 06:57:24 JST BeAware

   • Jay 🆘

   @jsit Well, overall I am in the minority for this, apparently. Though, there's some nuance.

   AFAIK, AP and Nostr are the only two protocols that talk to each other across servers like this with the other server being accessible via web browser.

   BlueSky MIGHT have this in the future. However, currently, there's not much else besides BlueSky on ATproto thats noteworthy.

   Nostr just has too little people to be noteworthy right now, though it solves the issues of AP AND BlueSky, in my opinion.

   So, since these smaller networks had to be "bridged" to AP by third parties to be relevant to the Fediverse, then I'd say yes, it only refers to AP. Without AP, none of these networks would be in the Fediverse. They would be seperate federated networks.

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     Jay 🆘 (jsit@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 07:04:18 JST Jay 🆘

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     @BeAware If people started building ATProto apps like crazy, and they took off in popularity until they outnumbered ActivityPub implementations — would ATProto suddenly be “the fediverse”? And what would ActivityPub be, then?

     BeAware repeated this.
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     Eric-Oliver Mächler 💻 (emaechler@mastodon.maechler.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 07:05:29 JST Eric-Oliver Mächler 💻

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     • Jay 🆘

     @jsit @BeAware of course not - did sms replace email?

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     Jay 🆘 (jsit@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 07:06:42 JST Jay 🆘

     @BeAware As a technology, ATProto is very interesting to me, but I think we’ll have to wait and see how it plays out. It hasn’t really delivered on its promise yet the way ActivityPub has.

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     Jay 🆘 (jsit@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 07:11:16 JST Jay 🆘

     @BeAware Yeah, bridging is not federation.