AnarchoNinaWrites
I don't think you folks are understanding how this works.
Scotus said the President is immune for official acts; they didn't say whatever the President does is official. So if Biden does a thing, they'll run that up the courts and say "nope, not within the President's powers." If Trump does a thing, they'll say the exact opposite.
It's a judicial coup. SCOTUS run Bartertown now; along with a bunch of other federal judges that SCOTUS can overrule by hearing any appeal they want to.
Urzl
@AnarchoNinaWrites The only actions with any weight now are the ones that cannot be reversed.
Biden could order Trump and conservative justices be assassinated and that would stick just because resurrection isn't an option.
Everything else is trivially reversible.
mark
@AnarchoNinaWrites pretty wild for SCOTUS to issue decisions days apart stating that 1) the legislative branch can’t delegate statue interpretation to the executive for the purpose of crafting regulations, that’s the judiciary’s self-appointed job, but 2) the head of the executive, POTUS, can do whatever the fuck they want under cloak of officialdom.
Calvinball, the favourite game of fascists.
CedarTea
@AnarchoNinaWrites When the judicial coup was attempted against FDR, he was able to back them down because he had a supermajority of militant popular support. Biden does not have that tool in his chest (nor the sand for it even if he did). Stopping it would have to come from somewhere outside the legislative or executive. Folks need to start looking inward and across instead of upward for protection because it ain't coming.
Hot Dog Water Moccasin
They have incrementally, but in big goddamn hunks, taken all power and are holding it until their fascist bully boy is ready to parade into his forever-home and he can take the reins, following a bit of long-overdue nationally televised target practice on Fifth Avenue.
Johnny B. 𓅇
@AnarchoNinaWrites pretty sure an executive order to arrest the 6 conservative SCOTUS member and their billionaire Friends for treason would be considered an official act.
If a future SCOTUS free from Billionaire influence decides that it was not or that the previous ruling was bullshit, so be it...
AnarchoNinaWrites
@stargazer I'm pretty sure Biden won't go to jail for issuing the order; and I'm also pretty sure it won't survive court.
But good luck.
AnarchoNinaWrites
@stargazer The absolute first federal court it comes under. Are you kidding me? Do you sincerely think with the power these folks have given themselves, you get to play fucking Simon Says?
Go away.
Johnny B. 𓅇
@AnarchoNinaWrites which court? With only three judges SCOTUS is no more. And as it is clear that this is to prevent a judical coup, would the three remaining judges really rule against it?
AnarchoNinaWrites
@stargazer I said "go away."
I have no desire to pretend with you; Biden isn't doing that, and you do not understand the ruling that was just made at all. For reasons I don't understand, you have taken it to me "the President can do whatever he wants" - it's not; the ruling is "the president is immune from prosecution for whatever WE say is an official act."
Have a good day, I don't feel like wasting my time on this discussion anymore.
Johnny B. 𓅇
@AnarchoNinaWrites What do you think will happen after the next election? SCOTUS will declare Trump president no matter what.
After that, it'll take six month max and the U.S. will be a full blown fascist state without any democracy (and no more the current capitalist fascism-light version.)
It's a judical coup, so the gloves need to come off - before it is to late.
And that federal judge trying to rule against it? Just issue the next executive order....
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