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   Ted (tedted@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 22:59:15 JST Ted

   I've seen more than a few folks on my Mastodon timeline express enthusiasm about Glaze, a system whose goal is to protect artists against style mimicry by generative models.

   If you're using this work, or otherwise have heard of it and thought "wow this is neat I'm happy people are doing it", I strongly recommend you read this blog post by security & privacy researchers Nicholas Carlini & Florian Tramèr about evaluating Glaze's claims: https://spylab.ai/blog/glaze/

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     Bobson Dugnutt 🖋 (batterpunts@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 23:03:35 JST Bobson Dugnutt 🖋

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     @tedted "So we should maybe just be transparent that [schemes for protecting against machine learning] are mostly for show."
     😬

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     Ted (tedted@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 23:04:05 JST Ted

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     • Nellyaa ✨

     @Nellyaa I'm not an expert so I don't know. It's not at all clear to me that the solution to this problem is technical.

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     Nellyaa ✨ (nellyaa@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 23:04:06 JST Nellyaa ✨

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     @tedted Thank you for the article. What are your proposed best alternatives to protect art against AI?

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     MaxTheFox (maxthefox@spacey.space)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 23:04:30 JST MaxTheFox

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     • demofox

     @demofox @tedted @nyrath It's basically the digital equivalent of homeopathy.

     Cheap way to fix a problem.
     No side effects compared to other measures.
     Hyped up by both its creators and true believers.
     The proposed mechanism for it makes sense on a surface level.
     Yet the only "evidence" that it does literally anything, comes from its inventors!

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     demofox (demofox@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 23:04:31 JST demofox

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     @tedted I've had 2 incidents where I tried to point some of these things out to the authors of glaze. The first time, some cs professor involved started hurling personal insults at me, saw my bio and asked "how did someone like you get a job at nvidia?" and then he blocked me. Second time was not much better. It really would be nice if it could work, but as you point out, unfortunately it cannot!

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     Shiny Quagsire (shinyquagsire@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 23:06:20 JST Shiny Quagsire

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     @tedted yeah I'm p sure I caught a bunch of blocks for demonstrating a bypass to Glaze 1.0 w/ GIMP for lineart and flats (not by the glaze team but just periphery ppl) bc it fundamentally cannot work for those, and the Glaze peeps didn't really acknowledge that at all until their Nightshade paper 😬

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