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   mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 11:04:11 JST mcc

   I'm sorry I can find the what for the what

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     Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 11:04:09 JST Joe Ortiz

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     • Matthew Miller

     @mcc @mattdm You also need to uncheck this button as well just to be 1000% certain.

     Settings -> Google -> Find My Device -> turn off.

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     Matthew Miller (mattdm@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 11:04:10 JST Matthew Miller

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     @mcc

     It seems like one of those things where it's going to happen *to* you without any permission — the only "opt out" you have is to not get benefit from it yourself. Like how you can "opt out" of TSA biometrics.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 11:04:10 JST mcc

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     • Matthew Miller

     @mattdm Technically you can opt out of it by not enabling Bluetooth. Which fortunately I was doing anyway!

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 11:04:11 JST mcc

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     When my phone got back from repair it had come with an unasked for upgrade to Android 13. Well, OK. So the first things I do are run through and turn off the "double tap to go to lock screen when phone is turned off" feature, the "Assistant button on lock screen" feature, and the feature to show a popup when you copy something… I then find that the double tap on lock screen, assistant on lock, and popup on copy features were all still happening anyway. I didn't used to hate Google, but now I do.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 11:04:11 JST mcc

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     Hey, question. I'm getting notifications from Google asking me to add my new (or effectively new, post-wipe) phone to the "Find My Device network". This is confusing to me because I can open up Google Find My Device and it can *see* the device, now, as is, and ping it and stuff. So what's this screen? Is this exclusively about the secondary network where it's tracking the locations of Bluetooth devices and other phones will tattle on my location when the cell modem is off? Cuz I don't want that

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     Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 11:40:13 JST Joe Ortiz

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     • Matthew Miller

     @mcc @mattdm It's a slippery slope for sure. I found a April article on it on opting out of networks and it's effects: https://9to5google.com/2024/04/16/opt-out-offline-tracking-find-my-device/

     I don't trust their "encryption" on it.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 11:40:14 JST mcc

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     • Joe Ortiz
     • Matthew Miller

     @joeo10 @mattdm But I want Find My Device? I just don't want Google tracking me or my shit through means other than me choosing to have my phone report its own location through Find My Device

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     Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 00:17:58 JST Joe Ortiz

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     • Matthew Miller
     • JLab8

     @JLab8 @mcc @mattdm Find My Device is on every Android device from 7 (Nougat) to the current 14 as I have a old Nexus 5 running Nougat and it's there.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 00:18:00 JST mcc

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     • Joe Ortiz
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     • JLab8

     @JLab8 @joeo10 @mattdm wow, I hate it

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     JLab8 (jlab8@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 00:18:00 JST JLab8

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     • Joe Ortiz
     • Matthew Miller

     @mcc @joeo10 @mattdm thanks, though!

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     JLab8 (jlab8@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 00:18:01 JST JLab8

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     • Joe Ortiz
     • Matthew Miller

     @mcc @joeo10 @mattdm oh, ok. I get those *after* turning on the main FMD switch. What a terrible UI to hide that there are more (unavailable) settings if FMD is on.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 00:18:02 JST mcc

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     • JLab8

     @JLab8 @joeo10 @mattdm This is what I get in 13. I believe the top switch is "normal Find My Device" and the bottom switch is "Bluetooth snitch network". No, I don't think these buttons are labeled well.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 00:18:03 JST mcc

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     • Joe Ortiz
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     • JLab8

     @JLab8 @joeo10 @mattdm what version of Android is this? It might not support the new network.

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     JLab8 (jlab8@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 00:18:03 JST JLab8

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     • Joe Ortiz
     • Matthew Miller

     @mcc @joeo10 @mattdm 12, but I definitely got notified about this new network (but maybe it was on the web?) Either way Google directed me back to my phone settings where the only option is to fully disable FMD.

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     JLab8 (jlab8@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 00:18:04 JST JLab8

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     • Joe Ortiz
     • Matthew Miller

     @joeo10 @mcc @mattdm weird, I've only got "find my device" in my settings menu and no way to opt out of offline tracking. Not in the web privacy interface, either. Gross.