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   :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 19:09:53 JST :umu: :umu:
   So, you make a controller for PC.
   
   You control PC with mouse or touchpad.
   
   You can't put anything mouse-like on a controller.
   
   Touchpad therefore must be the only choice.
   
   But instead of this yet another manufacturer suggests to use sticks, which is nearly as useless as thinkpad nipple.
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     Moritz Poldrack :arch: (mpldr@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 19:09:52 JST Moritz Poldrack :arch:

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     @a1ba To be fair, the touchpads on the first one sucked for most games, as they were interpreted like sticks, making most games borderline unplayable. Portal and Portal 2 were absolutely great with it, though. So in lieu of developers probably not optimising for them, I can understand that decision.

     Source: Have one of them

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 19:13:04 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Moritz Poldrack :arch:
     @a1ba @mpldr Meanwhile the one thing I don't like about the Steam Controller is the lack of proper d-pad and straining your thumb if you need to use X/Y/A/B frequently (or holding it).
     (And annoyingly a lot of games don't allow rebinding gamepad controls as freely as keyboard/mouse games)
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 19:13:05 JST :umu: :umu:

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     • Moritz Poldrack :arch:
     @mpldr on gamepads it's fine for games that require mouse (because not all games actually support gamepads). It's also quite comfortable for shooters.
     
     Source: me
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 19:17:19 JST :umu: :umu:

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Moritz Poldrack :arch:
     @lanodan @mpldr true.
     
     I like that they just decided to add _everything_ on the Steam Deck.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 19:18:16 JST iced depresso

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Moritz Poldrack :arch:
     @a1ba @mpldr @lanodan fortunately in steaminput you can rebind to arbitrary controller buttons iirc. the icons on the game will be wrong tho.
     
     still would be happier if steaminput worked without being logged in to an account though.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 19:22:11 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Moritz Poldrack :arch:
     @a1ba @mpldr Yeah, and quite the same for the Valve Index, except d-pad but like you get 2 buttons, 1 trigger, 1 small thumb-touchpad, 1 fingers touchpad, 1 joystick per handle. (And the buttons seem touch-sensitive as well somehow)
     
     I think Valve quite learned from it, which makes me wonder if we'd get a V2 of the Steam Controller, I feel like touchpads where they put the grip buttons could work to then get an otherwise regular controller.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 19:28:07 JST iced depresso

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Moritz Poldrack :arch:
     @a1ba @mpldr @lanodan openxr does similar things. i used to shitpost about normalizing that as an input.
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 19:28:08 JST :umu: :umu:

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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     • Moritz Poldrack :arch:
     @icedquinn @mpldr @lanodan and not being proprietary.
     
     I would really like to use Steam Input but I wouldn't because linking to steamapi is... uhh. no.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 20:05:25 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • iced depresso
     • Moritz Poldrack :arch:
     @a1ba @icedquinn @mpldr Well there's also things like xboxdrv which effectively grabs the gamepad and creates another one in userspace, but then the in-game buttons can only be wrong.