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   Matthias Pfefferle (pfefferle@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 23:41:27 JST Matthias Pfefferle

   it's often so complex to add #ActivityPub to an already existing platform (for example #WordPress ) and it gets even more complex if it is not built for social media 😱

   For example

   1. Deleting Users from the Fediverse, that still exist on the blog.
   2. Delete the whole blog from the fediverse, but take temporary plugin deactivations/deletions into account.
   3. Caching by third party plugins.
   4. Shared hosting.
   5. Posts and Comments in different DB tables
   6. Publish only a subset of posts

   • clacke@libranet.de is my main likes this.
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     Matthias Pfefferle (pfefferle@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 23:44:33 JST Matthias Pfefferle

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     7. Allow local comments and comments from the Fediverse, but don't mix them up.
     8. Allow replies only for selected posts.
     9. Follow the whole blog, selected autors or a mixture of all of them.
     10. ...

     ...but it's still fun ...or perhaps precisely because of this 🙂

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     Nick Bohle 🇪🇺 (nickbohle@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 23:48:35 JST Nick Bohle 🇪🇺

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     @pfefferle Keep up your great work! 👍

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     Matthias Pfefferle (pfefferle@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 23:49:10 JST Matthias Pfefferle

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     • Nick Bohle 🇪🇺

     thanks @NickBohle 😊

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     Matthias Pfefferle (pfefferle@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 23:56:22 JST Matthias Pfefferle

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     • Paul Chambers

     @paul having an explicit action to do that is not the problem! https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/pull/552/files#diff-1916afa363050c8d1ac472b3d135f3076b5f4322874a4eeea8fb30da87ef7c3c

     ...but what about doing it on deactivating/deleting the plugin? do people expect that? what about people that simply deactivate the plugin to debug something?

     THAT is tricky :)

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     Paul Chambers (paul@oldfriends.live)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 23:56:23 JST Paul Chambers

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     @pfefferle

     I'm the one that opened that GitHub question about shutting my blog down and making a clean break from ActivityPub.

     I decided to renew my SSL for another year on the domain, keep it up and give you a year to figure it out instead of just parking it for a while. 😂 🤭

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     Matthias Pfefferle (pfefferle@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 23:57:13 JST Matthias Pfefferle

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     • Paul Chambers

     @paul it's so much easier and faster to deactivate a plugin, than to delete a mastodon instance!

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     Matthias Pfefferle (pfefferle@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 00:11:46 JST Matthias Pfefferle

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     • Paul Chambers

     @paul it is not about re-trying, but (at least as far as I know) deletes seems to be irrevocable. If you delete a post from Mastodon, you can't re-send it... Mastodon will ignore it from then on and I would assume that this is the same with Users and/or the blog. So if we do send a delete by accident, this could cause some serious damage.

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     Paul Chambers (paul@oldfriends.live)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 00:11:47 JST Paul Chambers

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     @pfefferle

     Seems to me, making a clean exit from AP would be a priority because someone has made the explicit decision to leave AP & that gives the domain a clean AP start in the future for the next domain owner/operator.

     Also, and this is out of my wheelhouse, the issue with deactivating and reactivating would be getting the Fediverse to start talking again to the WordPress blog. I know Mastodon stops trying after a certain period of failure but not sure its mechanism on reentry.

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     Matthias Pfefferle (pfefferle@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 00:12:07 JST Matthias Pfefferle

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     • Paul van Buuren

     @paul sure!

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     Paul van Buuren (paul@social.van.buu.re)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 00:12:10 JST Paul van Buuren

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     @pfefferle Do you like real world examples / challenges? Because I have one.

     (and I would like some expert advice, please?)

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     Paul van Buuren (paul@social.van.buu.re)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 00:47:06 JST Paul van Buuren

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     • Digitale Overheid

     @pfefferle I am webadmin for www.digitaleoverheid.nl, a government related WordPress site. Thanks to your plugin we have an activitypub presence at
     @digitaleoverheid.nl

     And we have a Mastodon account:
     https://social.overheid.nl/@DigitaleOverheid

     ('overheid' = 'Behörde')