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   Abhiseck Paira :gnu: :gnuhurd: (redstarfish@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 14:39:33 JST Abhiseck Paira :gnu: :gnuhurd:

   Now all of my close friends, with whom I chat regularly, are on #xmpp! I'll be trying to get some more people. I had to distribute the Conversations app directly to them as they were unlikely to install "one more app" (viz. f-droid) to install Conversations.

   I try not to mention the word "xmpp", instead I say "Just install Conversations". As hearing the word "xmpp" will probably scare them as well.

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     Nikhil 🐧 (realestninja@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 15:31:25 JST Nikhil 🐧

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     @redstarfish not mentioning xmpp is a good trick 😁

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     Cosmin (cosmin@linuxrocks.online)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 15:46:04 JST Cosmin

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     @redstarfish
     Did they create accounts on conversations.im, or did you recommend a different one?

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     met (met@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 16:14:58 JST met

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     @redstarfish Looks nice. Out of curiosity, did you need to do any setup for encryption (E2EE) for direct messages/group chats? (I'm asking because in my experience the user experience must be extremely simple to convince "non-tech" people to use stuff like this.)

     If you used Signal before, how does it compare?

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     Aardjon (aardjon@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 22:10:04 JST Aardjon

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     @redstarfish Congratulations, lucky you! 👍🥳
     I noticed a unique(?) XMPP feature that some people are interested in is the REAL multi device support (ie being useable after losing ones phone). Unfortunately, most of them use Windows which I don't know any good clients for. Can you recommend a Windows XMPP client that is simple and easy to use and supports OMEMO? Something like Dino but for Windows will probably do. Gajim and PSI+ seem to be a bit too complicated 🤔
     #xmpp #windows

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     Pirate Praveen (praveen@social.masto.host)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 14:08:37 JST Pirate Praveen

     • Prav App
     • Cosmin

     @redstarfish @cosmin You could send them a diasp.in invite. Though they have to sign up with a web browser and then login with an app for now. Hopefully we can make this easier soon. We are also working on @prav which will combine app + service, but we are still in beta. If using phone number as a username is fine, then Quicksy would be easier for people, it is available on Play Store and they just need to enter phone number and contacts will be discovered automatically.

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     Pirate Praveen (praveen@social.masto.host)'s status on Friday, 28-Jun-2024 04:40:01 JST Pirate Praveen

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     • Prav App
     • Cosmin
     • Akshay S Dinesh

     @redstarfish @prav @cosmin Thanks to @akshay we found out the root cause of SMS not sending - we had configure Prav server to listen only on ipv4 interface so ipv6 requests were going directly to ejabberd (the SMS verification logic is handled by prav server and only prav server can create account in ejabberd after verification). I just confirmed SMS OTP is working on my phone (which was not working earlier). So please try signing up now.

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     Pirate Praveen (praveen@social.masto.host)'s status on Friday, 28-Jun-2024 04:40:02 JST Pirate Praveen

     • Prav App
     • Cosmin

     @redstarfish @prav @cosmin Quicksy and Conversations should be identical in that situation (only difference in sign up and contacts discovery - otherwise both share the same code). Prav is still in beta and we are trying to fix the SMS problem. May be that is a temporary error due to network issues. Are you still not able to send messages ? If you are still not able to send message, please report a bug.

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     Kari'boka (kariboka@social.harpia.red)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 01:11:04 JST Kari'boka

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     @redstarfish I have an ejabberd server, I wanted to call some friends to give em an account but I am afraid of how much storage that would take. Do you have experience with it?
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     Pirate Praveen (praveen@social.masto.host)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 19:16:53 JST Pirate Praveen

     • Kari'boka

     @redstarfish
     It is not very heavy and you can decide how long you want to keep old messages and files on the server if storage is a concern.
     @kariboka

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     valhalla (valhalla@social.gl-como.it)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 23:05:35 JST valhalla

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     • Kari'boka

     @kariboka @redstarfish I have prosody instead of ejabberd, but I believe it would be similar.

     I have ~20 users most of which love cats :D , a strict limit on http uploads (5 MB and they get deleted after 30 days) and mod_mam / mod_muc_mam are configured with the default where messages are deleted after one week.

     This was done mostly for privacy (I don't want to keep any personal data for longer than is required for people to download stuff on their multiple devices), but of course has the side effect of keeping the requirements light.

     My prosody storage directory right now is 358MB, of which 335MB are in the http_upload directory.

     edit: I'm specifying I'm using prosody because I'm using prosody's names for the configurations, but I believe that ejabberd has all of the equivalent features.