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   LillyLyle/Count Melancholia (lillyherself@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jun-2024 21:58:53 JST LillyLyle/Count Melancholia

   RT'ed by William Gibson on Twitter:
   and it's so very on the nose of the issue:

   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:, NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi: and Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: like this.
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     aggressively biphasic sleeper (itsmeholland@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 16:38:39 JST aggressively biphasic sleeper

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     • xs4me2
     • Wiredfire

     @wiredfire @LillyHerself @xs4me2 considering that before the AI boom, we were collectively only managing to power about 6% of the total energy use with renewables on a regular basis, there is ZERO REASON to think it's different with AI because "they pwomise." Everyone is absolutely right to dunk on the power consumption, just like with shitcoin, in fact they don't dunk nearly hard enough.

     https://news.yahoo.com/news/power-hungry-ai-boom-making-164025548.html?guccounter=1

     https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/business/2024/06/21/ai-is-exhausting-the-power-grid-tech-firms-are-seeking-a-miracle-solution/74170078007/

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     LillyLyle/Count Melancholia (lillyherself@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 16:38:40 JST LillyLyle/Count Melancholia

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     • xs4me2
     • Wiredfire

     @wiredfire @xs4me2 You can believe that, if it makes you feel better. But as long as there is still nuclear, and fossil fuels are still being burnt, and we are asked to keep our power usage down for essential things, and as long as the earth's climate continues being disrupted, then I'm afraid there's no excuse for it.

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     Wiredfire (wiredfire@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 16:38:40 JST Wiredfire

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     • xs4me2

     @LillyHerself @xs4me2 aye, I’m not actually contesting that but it’s conjecture - attack AI with things that OpenAI and their fetid kin can’t hand-wave away. How they power their infra isn’t the route.

     AnthonyJK-Admin repeated this.
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     Wiredfire (wiredfire@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 16:38:41 JST Wiredfire

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     • xs4me2

     @xs4me2 @LillyHerself not “this” unless backed up with data about how these various data centres source their energy.

     Many have been and are increasingly using sustainable power, mostly because it’s actually more cost effective most of the time and they can do a little greenwashing as a bonus.

     There are a multitude of reasons to dunk on LLMs / AI but power usage isn’t the “gotcha” many think it is.

     Edit: It’s been fun but muting now to silence trolls 😆 🔇

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     xs4me2 (xs4me2@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 16:38:42 JST xs4me2

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     @LillyHerself

     This 👆