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A lot of feminists are about to suddenly become devoted housewives
thehill.com/policy/defense/4730560-senate-democrats-require-women-draft/
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@TrevorGoodchild @Shadowman311 indeed, suffrage is back on the menu
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@epictittus @petra @InvictusManeo @YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild the problem with this theory is that if you have a few states that defy the federal, they will produce an effect where people will look to join them.
The assumption with the mexico format is that you don't already have states with their own police forces and (essentially) militaries. But we do.
If 10 states were to announce they were taking over the military equipment in their states and thanks feds for the donations, I don't think there is a ton that would be done.
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@InvictusManeo @epictittus @YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild Given the prize, though. The United States of America. And the disadvantages to a country who didn't get in the fight compared to the advantages of one that did and backed the winner or at least enough of a group of relative winners, I can't see it taking long before foreign involvement happens. And it will only ratchet up from there.
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@petra @InvictusManeo @YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild Im saddened to think this way, but the closest national breakdown model for America is initially Mexico, but due to foreign involvement eventually Africa.
>Mexico stage
Initially the state will gradually lose power outaide of metropolitan areas. Local PDs will defy, arrest and even shoot federal and state agents. Federal power will exist only inside of DC, NYC, and larger cities dotted around the country, or some states where democrats maintain absolute control and arrest dissidents (Cali).
>Africa stage
They will try to maintain control of ports, and use airports in large cities to resupply their attempt to put down revolts. But the industrial base will be shot so they wont be able to deal with insurgency, and any slip up or mistake that frags civilians will increase animosity towards the state. This will be the period of open combat between rebels and federal faction, and the age of warlords popping up between.
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@InvictusManeo @YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild May be a good guess as to what will happen, but just remember it cant be accurate. The balkanization model was possible because of the small size of the region. America is much larger, all of the balkan civil war conflict can disappear in the city of New York. So will it be burrough against burrough?
The model doesnt fit size wise. Even the Spanish Civil War model is too small, Florida alone would account for it. And the population is WAY too informed and fractionated across different ideologies, there were only 4-5 ideologies at war in the Balkans and Spain. In America there would be a thousand.
When it goes, it will go in a way that nothing ever has in human history.
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@epictittus @YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild Depends also on how much power retains the central government before going to shit, and what it wants to do.
Enough to defend? can still project power? armed forces as well, if they draft people en masse won't take much long before it goes from bad to worse.
> small size of the region
Yes, absolutely, but still, when it started it was almost everywhere, no escaping it, even if you were considerably behind the lines dangers were all over.
In America this won't be as likely, specifically for the size of the scenario, some areas won't be touched if not marginally , others will be overrun by the consequences, the coasts and metro areas I see them performing poorly, very poorly, both in terms of casualties and in terms of degradation, infrastructures, quality of life etc, everything will be affected.
NY / LA are very likely to collapse as soon as the roads won't bring the goods in, looting will peak and bands will be formed, these will be then become more or less popular based on how they act as long as there is wealth to distribute, once that ends they will have to venture off, to evolve into something else, niggers will probably loot everything to the ground and move to the next target until they stumble on a wall and starve.
This is why I expect to turn on ethnic bases very quick.
And then, among these, there may be room for a political or religious or anything else to form a subsection.
> in a way that nothing ever has in human history
Agreed, again.
It may last a decade or more, is very likely to spill over to both CAN and MEX and possibly CENAM too, expecially if large groups of spics will try to move back to their country of origin.
No huge coalitions because the land is fractioned , small convenience alliances here and there among similar groups would be a possibility, for example, perhaps Texas holding its own , banding together with other states in similar positions and bulking around it?
Spanish civil war had a massive influx of foreigners from the beginning, they considerably tilted (the pro-Nationalist were good and disciplined fighters, the red ones awful shit stirrers) the outcome, but mostly prolonged the war.
Don't doubt away teams may want to play the game in the american league, but oceans will still play a factor and won't be as relevant, at least at the beginning.
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@YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 > laughs in opposing army
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@InvictusManeo @YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild just think how easy the rw takeover will be, the opposition is retarded
5 trillion dolar military industrial machine, laser focused on getting as many shaniquas "on dey lunch break" in crucial positions and jobs.
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@epictittus @YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild I am still unconvinced it will develop on political lines, even if certainly it will start out like that.
Ethnical are much more likely, but hey, I'm likely biased from what I've seen happening, the Jugo scenario had no political affiliations, you had serb commies and serb neonazis fighting against a loose ethnical , political and of convenience alliance of people whom hated each other just slightly less than they hated the serbs.
Multiple reports of croatians and bosnians attacking each other before or after battling the serbs, albaniggers bands fought each other over loot and western aid...
Right & left will probably field the early state agitators (mind, is not necessarily a bad word), but things will develop, imho, on much more concrete lines than political alignment when SHTF.
Huge population moves across lines in the making, with conflict all around, been there, seen the aftermath of that too.
> shaniquas in crucial positions
These people are net negatives and whomever has them on their side will have a major disadvantage at anything beyond a ghetto brawl.
Only "the government", and a corrupt government at that, can afford it, but not forever.
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@Shadowman311 EVERYONE TO THE FRONTLINE, GIRL POWER!
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@epictittus @petra @InvictusManeo @YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild We can see what happened in El Salvidor - even central americans get sick of the crime, and enough of an apperance of order can cause a huge amount of loyality to be generated.
I think the federal government at this point is closer to the soviet union of 1988 than the soviet union of 1938.
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@sickburnbro @petra @InvictusManeo @YourAverageNewfag @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild That might happen in stage one, but the reason why stage 2 happens is soft power by the Fed and Foreign source. State judiciary, legislatures and governors either are or will be compromised and will sell out to fed or foreign powers. That will set up stage 2. Its going to fractionate down to counties, and even IF any unity is declared, each state will have 2 or 3 parallel governments claiming legitimacy.
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