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   Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:27:50 JST Sick Sun
   Oh hey they were deleting emails when they knew it would be FOIA'd too. Email by Dr. Daniel Morrens at the NIH.
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     Honey Badger Supreme 🇮🇪 (honeybadgersupreme@noauthority.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:29:58 JST Honey Badger Supreme 🇮🇪

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     @sun sounds like destruction of government records. No one is above the law, right?

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:33:14 JST Sick Sun

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     @feld Yes! From the NIH website:
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:33:15 JST feld

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     @sun they think they can just "delete" emails and there is no retention policy in place??????
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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:36:49 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     They also used odd spellings in emails to avoid legal requests as well iirc.

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:42:40 JST Sick Sun

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     @feld I looked over their page on retention and it stresses that it's the holder's responsibility. I am trying to interpret this charitably but I'm having a hard time
     
     https://policymanual.nih.gov/1743-1
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:42:41 JST feld

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     @sun wait does this mean they really don't have retention in place?
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:43:20 JST Sick Sun

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     @feld Oh I am sure this is intentional.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:43:21 JST feld

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     @sun what the hell are we paying our taxes for if they can't even get basic IT shit right
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:46:29 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     • feld
     @sun @feld this is one of those things where although journalists (and their equivalent in the mob/blogosphere) can be annoying, but there's good reasons why those rules are in place
     
     now stuff like "not wanting the private home addresses and personal drama to be in the hands of armed nutjobs" and nih funding/how-the-sausage-is-made wtfery looks like lableak fodder/an international incident
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 23:50:11 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @jeffcliff @feld the guy is right too, Fauci is too smart to admit to multiple federal crimes.
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     mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部) (moth_ball@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 03:13:07 JST mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部)

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     @sun I'm kinda out of the loop regarding this. Were the deleted emails about the vaccination's side effects or what?
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 03:13:07 JST Sick Sun

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     • mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部)
     @moth_ball it was early in 2020, they were in general trying to avoid freedom of information act requests for information. But in particular for the lab leak hypothesis
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 03:15:51 JST Sick Sun

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     • mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部)
     @jeffcliff @moth_ball yeah it really could have been about anything, and from that other scientist's email, deleting emails to avoid FOIA seemed to be a matter of course
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 03:15:52 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     • mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部)
     @sun @moth_ball of course
     the emails are deleted
     they could be about *the bioweapons program* and only about lab leaking incidentally