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@grillchen >same can be argued for a culture of copying/stealing.
A culture of copying generally useful information is a good thing, as it's an act of sharing information with your neighbors.
I don't understand why you try to conflate sharing with stealing.
>ignoring adobes licenses is something one should be proud of and teach many on how to do
Teaching people how to ignore that kind of restriction is not something to be proud of, as the restriction still has legal force and the user continues to be a sucker that is dominated by adobe - as they're still running adobe's malware and have no control over the software merely because one of the anti-features has been patched out.
What you should be teaching is how to install and use replacement free software - that is something to be proud of, as that user is no longer adobe's sucker and has freedom.
>not even sure if it runs on a free system
With the digital handcuffs patched out, adobes malware will probably run in WINE, but the install process would be so lengthy that you'd be able to install replacement free software and learn how to use it in a shorter amount of time - plus you won't end up turning a free system nonfree either.
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@meso I think in most situations stealing things is wrong.
I also think actively steering people away from gaining freedom by using free software, but encouraging them to continue to surrender their freedom to the same malware, except gratis is wrong.
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@Suiseiseki @grillchen i think people should steal
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@meso Maybe, but such recommendations is *assisting* adobe in their goal of stealing freedom, rather than stealing from adobe.
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@Suiseiseki i think its not wrong to steal from Adobe, or any other big tech corporation
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@Suiseiseki @grillchen
> use replacement free software
There isn't any (for Photoshop IMO). GIMP can be a good competitor if you can track down all the ancient plugins that aren't even maintained anymore. But honestly I'd rather patched Photoshop than buggy GIMP with ancient plugins that will explode the moment i select more than 1 pixel
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@munir >GIMP can be a good competitor
It's only really designed for image manipulation, but still manages to be better than photoshop at may things, although if you combine it with Krita and Inkscape, you have a free photoshop replacement.
>if you can track down all the ancient plugins that aren't even maintained anymore
I'm not sure what those plugins are meant to offer that isn't now built in.
Those plugins are all free software, so you can port them to the latest version if you want them and offer them to everyone.
>I'd rather patched Photoshop than buggy GIMP
You care naught for freedom them.
I don't care if it's 10 times harder to do it with free software - I'll anything for freedom - but in most cases doing things with free software is a breeze compared to proprietary degeneracy.
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@Suiseiseki @munir tru gimp + krita is fine for jsut about anything if you think you need photoshop you are just being dumb