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   Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:46:14 JST Bricky
   Adobe deserves to die for killing off the Flash era of the Internet, and the Creative Cloud Suite drama could do just that.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:46:06 JST Sick Sun

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     • बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper]
     @thatbrickster @meeper iphone wouldn't support flash, that was the nail in the coffin
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     Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:46:07 JST Bricky

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     • बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper]
     @meeper They deprecated Flash but had nothing to replace it with. The creative juices went elsewhere and what I remember growing up with is a distant memory. Ruffle and related projects are helping to revive what would otherwise be lost.
     
     Flash, while having a flawed implementation, had some good ideas. Animations made with vectors effectively have an unlimited resolution, eliminating the need for Ruffle et al. to upscale. I didn't personally work with its tooling so I can't speak about ActionScript or how the whole thing was to work with.
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     बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper] (meeper@udongein.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:46:11 JST बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper]

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     @thatbrickster so like they excessively commercialized or reduced focus on quality of flash?
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     Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:46:12 JST Bricky

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     • बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper]
     @meeper They bought Macromedia.
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     बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper] (meeper@udongein.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:46:13 JST बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper]

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     @thatbrickster how did they kill it?
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:49:04 JST Sick Sun

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     • बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper]
     @thatbrickster @meeper I'm glad Flash is dead but it should have been replaced with something better sooner.
     
     There are authoring tools that can render now to SVG and WebGL HTML canvas which is a 98% replacement.
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     Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:49:05 JST Bricky

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     @sun I remember Steve having a hardline stance against it. He was probably right to do so but I don't attribute it as the reason why Flash fell out of favour. A shame he didn't live long enough to see it through.
     
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     Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:51:03 JST Bricky

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     • Sick Sun
     @sun Like I said in the thread, Flash was deprecated with nothing to replace it. It had to die at some point.
     
     @meeper
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:51:03 JST Sick Sun

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     @thatbrickster @meeper I am agreeing with you completely except I'm glad it died because it caused a lot of problems
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     (RobotGirl) R0LL (robotgirl@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:55:07 JST (RobotGirl) R0LL

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     @sun @thatbrickster @meeper You can technically still use it on windows 10 and 11 (Not flash) but pre model "Macromedia Flash Player 8" with swf and flv files offline. Nflv Player etc, i do it for newgrounds, and flash games, even videos for zero wing pre meme days of early 90s.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:56:33 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @sun @thatbrickster @meeper SVG seems more like 40% there compared to flash for animations (plus *massive* file sizes even for still images).
     
     At least it meant that for a while ads weren't animated, until video bandwidth just became cheap enough.
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     (RobotGirl) R0LL (robotgirl@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:57:10 JST (RobotGirl) R0LL

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     @meeper @sun @thatbrickster Macromedia and micromedia where competing companies.
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     (RobotGirl) R0LL (robotgirl@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-2024 04:57:11 JST (RobotGirl) R0LL

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     @sun @meeper @thatbrickster Java Sun Soft and Macromedia was before micromedia flash took over macromedia corp.