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   SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 09:00:36 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)
   You are not saved because you are elect, you are elect because you are saved.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 09:14:18 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     • Joel [Minnesota]
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     @lykanthrocide @fkq1q2r2 Matthew 28:19-20, Baptism is the first step of being a disciple of Christ.
     Mark 16:16, whoever believes and is Baptized shall be saved.
     Acts 2:38, Baptism confers the forgiveness of sins which Christ won on the Cross.
     Romans 6:1-4, whoever is Baptized is united to Christ in both His death and Resurrection.
     Colossians 2:11-12, Baptism replaces circumcision as the means by which one is entered into Christ's Kingdom.
     
     And as we see from Pentecost and the baptism of the Ethiopian in Acts, this means water baptism performed in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. That means that, per John 3:5, Baptism as a Sacrament confers regeneration by virtue of the Holy Spirit's involvement with the rite.
     
     It is the normative way by which people are regenerated, so it is a necessary part of salvation, as St. Peter says plainly in 1 Peter 3:21. There may well be exceptions to the rule, but that only demonstrates the validity of the rule generally.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 09:14:19 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     • Joel [Minnesota]
     @fkq1q2r2 It means that Jesus Christ is the true Elect One, and if you are in Him by belief and Baptism, then you are part of the elect!
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     Lykanthrocide (lykanthrocide@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 09:14:19 JST Lykanthrocide

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     • Joel [Minnesota]
     @SuperLutheran @fkq1q2r2 > by belief and baptism
     
     May I poke your brain on this? What do you mean by Baptism and is it necessary for salvation?
     BowserNoodle ☦️ repeated this.
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     Joel [Minnesota] (fkq1q2r2@noauthority.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 09:14:20 JST Joel [Minnesota]

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     @SuperLutheran Does this mean the freewill act of salvation creates the predestination for being elect?