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Hitler on neopagans
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@burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount I can't help people here really struggle with definitions. Genocide does not have a positive or negative connotation. It simply means the mass eradication of an entire group of people. That's it.
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@wingedhussar @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount >Genocide does not have a positive or negative connotation.
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@jimmybuffettfanaccount good or evil, genocide is still genocide lol. If you remove an entire population of people, that's genocide. Even if the people were themselves evil and warranted the action.
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jeff cliff liked this it's not looking good for you
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@wingedhussar try and be more like Hitler ya turkey
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@jimmybuffettfanaccount The fanatical SS is more my vibe. They actually wanted to commit genocide.
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@wingedhussar I’m a Nazi because I think the Nazis were good and I want to be good, you’re a Nazi because you think they were evil and you want to be evil. we have nothing in common and nothing more to discuss.
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@jimmybuffettfanaccount right but its Christians who get all bent out of shape when you say you aren't a part of their club.
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@wingedhussar @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount Most people would agree that "the deliberate killing of a large number of people" has a negative connotation. In fairness to you, there are times where that's not a bad thing...
>Carthaga delenda est
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@BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount oh fuck not you again. Where does it say good or bad here.
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@wingedhussar @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount How do you reconcile these two statements so close together? Words do have meaning, and I'm rather prescriptivist in my own approach. Part of that means recognizing the connotation and loaded nature of specific words and phrases and laying foundations should you choose to use them outside of the norm. I'm not writing this to make you mad, but as a dude trying to help you fit in and chill out. not everything has to be a battle of nerdrage.
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@BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount yes genocide is used as "negative" term 99% of the time. But I used it purely in its raw form. If you were to kill all the jews that would be genocide as a matter of definition. Whether thats good or bad...thats up to the individual.
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@wingedhussar @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount I don't think genocide is good. I also believe the bystander at the lever is innocent of the blood of the 1 or 5 victims of the trolley problem should he not act. We can help within our means or withhold help per our own judgement, and some things will work themselves out. Some would call that a genocide, but I don't. I can think of real world applications that would be suitable alternatives for a genocide that fit into the framework I just provided. It's far less ghoulish IMO.
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@BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount made a clarification later on.
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@burner @BowsacNoodle @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount I don't understand why literal word forms are so hard to understand around here. Next time I'll just use baby talk and say "uh oh these folks aren't gonna be around much longer".
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@wingedhussar @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount It's not lack of understanding. That burner and I are taking the time to explain should show as much. It's just weird and cold in a sort of autistic sort of way. Not the fun type of autism that enjoys trains either, the "I have missing women in my freezer" kind. Like at least be funny when you talk about your bloodlust.
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you literally do not understand how language works
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he just used it, "a mass removal of people"
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@burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount and what happens when you come up with a word for "mass removal of people"...oh they already did! its..."genocide"
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @burner @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount yeah I mean they called me edgy because I used the word "genocide" when it literally means a mass removal of people. I am using it in its literal form and not as a negative term.
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if you don't want conotations, use more neutral wording. 'Genocide' is not neutral wording.
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@burner @wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount What is a neutral wording for that concept? That’s the issue here me thinks
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@burner @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount I don't understand why you're trying to assign morality to a definition of a word lol. What is the goal?
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no, the concept of a dictionary is just homogenising and gay.
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@burner @wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount I think this argument is just one over terminongy, Hussar thinks we should kill our enemies, and is thusly using the most applicable word, it's like when I used that stupid "Sophie's Choice" back on Scored, I'm not a believer in the holohoax or have even seen that movie, same shit here, he's not trying to be edgy me thinks.
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(((dictionary)))
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @burner @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount I get it but you can also use words in their literal sense, which I did, and then I also explained it doesn't have negative connotations TO ME PERSONALLY which is why I use it literally often.
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@wingedhussar @burner @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount What not-Dan is trying to say is that genocide has connotations, just like a word like say propaganda does.
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@wingedhussar @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount Boeing makes airplanes that usually work and flights are cheap enough. It can circle back to the nearest major port and bring back consumer goods on the return loop.
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@BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount if you want the world to get better you're gonna need autism to figure out the logistics of actually removing your enemies
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@wingedhussar @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount I mean, yeah. That's the point of gatekeeping. I want you to fit in rather than play fedpost Icarus with a group of people who have already had umpteen hellthreads on this subject.
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@burner @BowsacNoodle @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount you're sperging that I don't care to follow social norms when I am having a conversation about mass murder...come on lol
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fuck off nerd you're dealing with spergs on here for the most part, it's just that most of us have figured out/read up on a good chunk of social contracts and the like
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@BowsacNoodle @wingedhussar @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount That's just the thing, it's not really up to you how a concept is perceived in the minds of others, and your personal connotations don't really translate without extensive clarification. Or rather Winged Hussar, not *you* you.
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@BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount When you achieve power, the perception of words won't matter. You'll just act.
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@wingedhussar @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount Underwear gnomes.mp4
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cool, you're a guy on the Internet so the perception of words does matter
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@burner @wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount The issue here is this whole concept has been tainted by our enemies, though I’d say mass removal (preferably by moving them home) is the best wording for it
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@givenup @wingedhussar @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount True but... same energy.
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@givenup @BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount the ZOG lol
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@wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount that hasn't even fucking existed forever.
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@givenup @BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount Christianity speed ran Rome
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@wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount always with the "christianity killed the ailing roman empire" meanwhile factually, it seems to have prolonged it's existence becuase it was an ailing empire beset on many sides, and rome had a civil war almost every succession for a long time.
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@wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount name me a political entity that has persisted forever? what there isn't one? *shrug*
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@BowsacNoodle @wingedhussar @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount the holy roman empire was in fact an empire, and charlemagne was crowned emperor of the romans by the pope, and had the support of the pope off and on, so fuck voltaire.
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@wingedhussar @burner @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount But yes, “mass removal” is slightly less tained then “genocide” though I’d say this argument is stupid as there‘s no real right anwser here.
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @burner @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount I feel pretty silly trying to doctor up a conversation of mass extermination of people.
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @burner @BowsacNoodle @jimmybuffettfanaccount "semi-temporary relocation"
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@wingedhussar @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount >I feel pretty silly trying to doctor up a conversation of mass extermination of people.
The larger point is to be aware of how people use language. Believe it or not, we probably all have read the definition of genocide several times. But we know how that word is normally used by people and that's how we tend to run with it. That's the point— the contextual language element, not the word in question. IDK man just chill a bit on getting so heated if people don't follow what you're saying. Sometimes it's an encoding problem not a decoding one.
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@givenup @wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount Hussar’s an athiest like myself iirc (I’m an agnostic atheist personall)
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount i know, but there really is no good reason why hte roman empire persisted as long as it did from a secular point of view, other than it got lucky with a few reformers at the right time.
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@givenup @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount I'll admit it was a bit of a jimmy rustlin post. Rome would have fallen regardless of what faith was official in the eyes of the government. It is funny to me though because it looks bad historically. You have a 1000 year empire and it falls apart after 100 years of Christianity.
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@wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount anyways if you're like me and a Christian, you believe God raised the roman empire to spread Christianity far and wide and it did that, and it annihilated hte baby sacrificers of carthage, it lasted a long time where political entities around it rose and fell, that's actually unusual.
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@wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount reading roman history you realize it was anything BUT stable despite all that it lasted for centuries.
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@Jonny @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount @wingedhussar Good evening Jonny. How's the weather?
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@BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount @wingedhussar
Name the jew, retard
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount The good news is if you have racially pure children, and you teach them to continue that, a piece of you will live on forever. That is true immortality.
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@wingedhussar @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount that's how genetics works.
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount yep. Not even agnostic. Straight up "nothing happens when you die" atheist.
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@wingedhussar @givenup @BowsacNoodle @burner @jimmybuffettfanaccount That’s what I believe too as I’ve seen no evidence to the contrary, perhaps I’m wrong but that’s the assumption I operate under
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@Jonny @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount @wingedhussar jews did 9/11.
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@Jonny @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount @wingedhussar My mother is a good woman. Don't talk about her that way.
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@BowsacNoodle @burner @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @jimmybuffettfanaccount @wingedhussar
You’re shabos goy mom, did 9 eleven
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