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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:07:22 JST Evan Prodromou

   Our voice phone systems are seamlessly federated. You can call people across carriers, over national boundaries, instantaneously, and the only friction is slightly more numbers to dial.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:12:14 JST Evan Prodromou

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     SMS is also remarkably well federated. In the early 2000s, every carrier had their own text messaging platform. Today, you can send an SMS to practically anyone.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:14:26 JST Evan Prodromou

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     So here's my question: why the hell do we mess around with so many proprietary OTT services? Why do we have to figure out whether to Zoom or Meet or FaceTime or Jitsi? We are literally all carrying phones 24x7. Let's just use our federated phones.

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     Jer Clarke (jerclarke@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:50:49 JST Jer Clarke

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     @evan Others have already said good answers (cost, video, privacy). I’ll also add audio quality fwiw.

     My counter question is why bother with Fediverse when IRC already exists?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:50:49 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Jer Clarke

     @jerclarke irc isn't federated.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:52:00 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Paul Reinheimer

     @preinheimer so, it's because the address is important that you want to avoid it.

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     Paul Reinheimer (preinheimer@phpc.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:52:01 JST Paul Reinheimer

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     @evan If you have my phone number you can make it ring any time.

     If I don't know you and you send me a zoom link I don't have to click on it.

     I run ~3 businesses and have kids who go to school, I kinda need to answer my phone.

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     kevin 🍃📠 driscoll (driscoll@mastodon.well.com)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:55:35 JST kevin 🍃📠 driscoll

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     @evan in my circles, it started years ago when people didn't want to pay for (international) SMS so they switched to messaging apps

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:55:35 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • kevin 🍃📠 driscoll

     @driscoll yeah, agreed. I think that's less of a big deal now. My SMS messages are free and unlimited.

     Also, wow, those well.com accounts are cool!

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:57:17 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Tim Panton

     @steely_glint oh, yeah, I'm not saying it's great. It takes a lot more to break into telecom than to start a Fediverse server.

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     Tim Panton (steely_glint@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 03:57:19 JST Tim Panton

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     @evan oh, ho, but just you try and join that club now...

     You'll need spectrum, and an operating license from a member state of the ITU - which only accepts membership from full UN members.

     Good luck...

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 06:06:41 JST feld

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     @evan the UX sucks. Make a good UX. Nobody actually cares about the protocols being used, they care about the experience.
     
     What does open source need to solve it? Money. It takes money to get UX right. It's a lot of work. So open source needs a business model and a circular economy to fund it.
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 06:07:11 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • feld
     @feld @evan or just an army of madmen
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 06:11:35 JST feld

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     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
     @hj @evan I know you would work on it 24/7 if you could afford to live off that work. This is the dilemma
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     Tim Lavoie (tim_lavoie@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 06:14:04 JST Tim Lavoie

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     @evan SMS is well-federated, but also the very lowest common denominator. It excels at nothing else.

     The designers of systems are making choices, often based on how much access they want to your data.

     I'm happy to use Signal, because they don't want my data.