Wherz Demloots
Propaganda is not lies; it's about highlighing what suits your narrative. Don't help the rightoids control the conversation by joining in on their 'what about Hamas' dogpile.
Hamas are bad; but the west needs to change its minds on Israel, not Hamas, for the genocide to be averted. We can stop people from agreeing with Israel, we can't stop islamists from being islamists except to drop fewer bombs on brown people; and that'll sooner happen by criticizing Israel as well.
HeavenlyPossum
When I criticized the Ukrainian state for its oppression, and specifically its forced conscription and prohibition on men leaving the country—conscription is, after all, slavery—I was similarly told that I was helping Russia win its imperialist war of aggression.
It was just as silly then as it is from you.
Wherz Demloots
@HeavenlyPossum Aha, I finally see what's going on here; Clearly you value and enjoy 'being right', but unfortunately, that's not a winning strategy. If being right was helpful, the left would not be losing as badly as they are in the world, because they're right on basically every issue.
Were anti-conscription arguments used by pro-russians to undermine pro-ukraine messaging though? Asking.
Because if it was a widely used tactic, then I would tell you not to waste time arguing against conscription, and instead talk about how Russia is cynically employing leftist rhetoric to undermine support of Ukraine and enable its own conscription for genocide and imperialism.
Wresting back control of the conversation is infinitely more valuable than 'being right' on any given issue.
Saying hamas bad is right, but not insightful, saying Azov bad is right, but even less insightful, saying conscription bad is a lot better but if it's a core part of their propaganda strategy then the right thing would be to say that they're abusing that good point instead of just saying conscription bad.
I was addicted to 'being right' as a teenager baby leftoid and it caused me to say a lotta right wing shit, until I figured out that I was being counterproductive.
HeavenlyPossum
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