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   wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 03:36:45 JST wet forest moon folklorist

   if I were biden, I’d whip every single willing rep and senator into a full action plan to bring integrity to the supreme court, starting with the demand that judges whose households have documented partisan or ethics issues involving politicians must be recused from all decisions involving those leaders

   https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/may/18/samuel-alito-flag-supreme-court-ethics-election?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 03:38:14 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     and at every single step it is just this hand wringing about how powerless we are in the face of the omnipotent gop, how we must be diplomatically meek to avoid a backlash from which we cannot recover, how the real threat here is our own youth and left flanks who must get in line so we can win elections and the privilege of sitting on our hands another 4 years as the nation literally crumbles into the sea

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 03:38:15 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     we sat here and watched gore concede a coup to george bush, we sat here and watched Obama give up one of his scotus picks, and now we are sitting here watching biden ignore trump’s death blows to the court as if being potus was just powerless pageantry

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 03:38:16 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     like friends how can we make this clear to you? your job is not to put on a suit and pay hordes of consultants to raise money to pay themselves. your job is to imagine and reimagine what just, democratic governance looks like in 2024 and then fight like hell for that vision. why are we led by so many feckless cowards jfc

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 03:38:17 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     after a lifetime of watching democrats refuse to stand for justice I am not surprised that they’ve entirely failed to show up at the 4-alarm fire that is the current SCOTUS, but it’s worth imagining what it would look like if they gave a single shit about the ideals we claim to hold sacred in this country

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 04:11:31 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @seachanger
     A big problem here is a mismatch in what options the different parties are willing to put on the table. The right wing got as far as it did despite national unpopularity because of utter shamelessness, a willingness to abuse every lever of power and ignore fundamental principles of democracy.

     It’s not entirely a bad thing we still have one major party that’s reluctant to abuse power and subvert process and circumvent democracy in similar ways. But that is what the moment requires.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 04:21:56 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @seachanger Agreed. Where I’m going with that is that those of us left of the Democratic Party median aren’t making a compelling case with “they’re stupid, they’re corrupt” — even though both are sometimes true. If we want to persuade these politicians, we need to treat this deference to process and norms as a •sincerely held• belief that in principle is reasonable, even admirable. From there, it’s just as you say. But to make the case, we can’t skip the “find the sincerity” part.

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 04:21:57 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     @inthehands I think the venn overlap between things Dems refuse to do and things that are entirely legal in defense of democracy is quite large — and yeah, I also think action beyond what is currently status quo is also warranted!

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 04:53:06 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     @cjpaloma @xgranade someone I really love often says “never lose your sense of outrage” 🥰

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     CJ Paloma's Summer Soapbox (cjpaloma@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 04:53:07 JST CJ Paloma's Summer Soapbox

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     • Cassandra Granade 🏳️‍⚧️

     @xgranade @seachanger I love this. Angry much? Yes, yes, I most certainly am.

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     Cassandra Granade 🏳️‍⚧️ (xgranade@wandering.shop)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 04:53:08 JST Cassandra Granade 🏳️‍⚧️

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     @seachanger Anger implicitly requires that its subject had another choice that would have been better. That's a kind of radical optimism, I think? The belief that it didn't have to be this way, and that it doesn't have to keep being this way?

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 04:53:09 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     and yeah I’m fucking angry! I prefer anger to cynicism, just feels better lol

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 04:53:10 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     instead of the endless focus on what trump is doing, why not focus on what the democrats are not doing? why have they never articulated an actionable plan to at least *try* to address blatant and documented corruption, partisanship, and now insurrectionary activity on the Supreme Court of the United States of America?

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     wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 04:53:11 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     so you know, just stop pretending trump is some kinda supernatural monster and singular force. dude is just filling the void left by the democrats longterm inability to wield power on behalf of democracy, even when handed mandates and trifectas by the American people. he is no devil or demon, just an opportunist who was given an extraordinary opportunity

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     Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 06:51:14 JST Jenniferplusplus

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     @inthehands @seachanger I think if they sincerely believe the rules are important, then they need to enforce them. They've been refusing to do that for more then a decade.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 06:59:37 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @jenniferplusplus @seachanger
     Very much agreed. There’s a “head in sand” feeling to all this (per the OP thread) that’s super discouraging.

     And not just from elected officials. I am possibly even more disappointed in the apparent toothlessness of the legal system.

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     Natasha Taylor (tashtaylor@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 07:44:22 JST Natasha Taylor

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     • Cassandra Granade 🏳️‍⚧️
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     @seachanger @cjpaloma @xgranade "Maintain your rage and enthusiasm"

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 07:44:22 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @TashTaylor @seachanger @cjpaloma @xgranade “Stay angry, little Meg,” Mrs. Whatsit whispered. “You will need all your anger now.”