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   Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:36:13 JST Fish of Rage
   "evs aren't here to save the planet they are here to save the car industry" look I actually want a car they are super convenient. I exist as a corporeal entity that can experience pleasure or pain and I don't have to justify my existence to anyone so I am entitled to "wasteful" things
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:40:53 JST Fish of Rage

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     @istvan from power usage they are better but maybe not better for the environment when you factor in mining for rare earth metals etc.
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     dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:40:54 JST dobó istván

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     @sun EVs work like all green tech.

     They let you feel virtuous about your low water bill because you secretly sneak out each night to take a massive shit in your neighbor’s yard.

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     thegreatape :gentoo::nixos: (thegreatape@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:49:36 JST thegreatape :gentoo::nixos:

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     @sun@shitposter.world @istvan@noauthority.social this is why using used / recycled computers and devices is so important. And why planned obsolescence is so bad for electronics.

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     thegreatape :gentoo::nixos: (thegreatape@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:49:40 JST thegreatape :gentoo::nixos:

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     @sun@shitposter.world @istvan@noauthority.social IMO they are a cope. I'm calling it in 20 years max, people will finally admit that maybe filling cars with a million Chinese batteries that will lose charge over time is not a real solution. Also it does promote even more exploitation of the Congo. Which has been the target of resource gathering for advanced countries for centuries now. Not like we weren't already doing this, the demand for even more rare earth minerals is def going to cause more of this.
     
     https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/02/01/1152893248/red-cobalt-congo-drc-mining-siddharth-kara

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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:50:57 JST Fish of Rage

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     • thegreatape :gentoo::nixos:
     @dushman @istvan @thegreatape there are upsides and downsides to both and I want us to have more public transportation but still have cars
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:50:59 JST Dushman

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     @thegreatape @sun@shitposter.world @istvan@noauthority.social
     I mean the real solution is building good public transport. Car centric infrastructure fucking sucks, thank god I don't live in America.

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     triodug (triodug@fedi.triodug.com)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:52:31 JST triodug

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     @dushman @istvan @thegreatape @sun how do we build good public transport for rural areas with crazy distances between anything?
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 01:03:05 JST Dushman

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     @triodug@fedi.triodug.com @istvan@noauthority.social @thegreatape@den.raccoon.quest @sun@shitposter.world how do we build good public transport for rural areas with crazy distances between anythingWell those places will keep using cars. Most traffic is in cities though so it would largely solve that problem anyway.

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     triodug (triodug@fedi.triodug.com)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 01:07:42 JST triodug

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     @dushman @istvan @thegreatape @sun cities already have good public transport here so I don't see the issue.
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     dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 02:56:02 JST dobó istván

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     @sun Yeah. That’s what I mean.

     In China there were many stories of children dying of heavy metal poisoning because the rice field was downriver from a battery factory.

     The cost to extract rare earths and build batteries and solar panels etc is incredibly heavy on the environment, and it’s not being factored in when people think about the impact of new energy because it’s someone else’s child paying for it.

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