What kind of goofy ass name is Talibang Anakpawis? 😭 You can't declare yourselves as a vanguard. That's not how anything works. Trotskyists talaga.
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Abolisyonista (abolisyonista@ni.hil.ist)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 22:30:19 JST Abolisyonista -
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Abolisyonista (abolisyonista@ni.hil.ist)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 00:17:30 JST Abolisyonista @richpuchalsky quite the other way around actually. A vanguard of the class struggle precisely emerges in the course of class struggle. Sometimes it's a previously existing organization like the CNT-FAI in Spain. Sometimes it emerges spontaneously like Solidarity in Poland. However these groups are not self-declared vanguards. A group becomes a vanguard of the class struggle when they are followed by many and arise to a leading role. Vanguard parties are not vanguards of the class struggle because it is not a position that you can declare for yourself.
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Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝ (richpuchalsky@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 00:17:31 JST Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝ I'm not into vanguards, but hasn't every historical vanguard declared themselves to be a vanguard? It's not like they are chosen by a community or something like that.
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Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝ (richpuchalsky@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 00:33:23 JST Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝ I respect your views and I don't want a big argument about it but I think that all such vanguards were deluding themselves or others and were fundamentally self-asserting control of a struggle
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Abolisyonista (abolisyonista@ni.hil.ist)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 00:33:23 JST Abolisyonista @richpuchalsky I don't think you understand me because I also agree that vanguard parties are deluding themselves and take over and coopt struggles. I'm talking about how in a battle the vanguard scouts ahead, delays the enemy, and lays the groundwork for the main force to arrive. In the class struggle, we will need similar functions, but we cannot confuse these functions withe the already poisoned term “vanguard.”
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