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    寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 29-Oct-2022 01:03:37 JST 寮 寮
    Decentralization through federation is the true answer to the censorship problem
    http://asc7ewkcvat2wsoi5yuwkej5ukyrqqnpnzpj4u34r2jxnoxhnbx6yqad.onion/blog/decentralize-federate-is-solution/
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      xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 29-Oct-2022 02:15:47 JST xianc78 xianc78
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      @ryo The only problem I see with Tor or I2P is that Email, XMPP, Fediverse, etc servers will have to be configured to communicate with servers using those darknets which is going to break federation as not everyone will do it.

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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 29-Oct-2022 02:16:36 JST 寮 寮
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      @xianc78 They'll only federate with those on the same darknet though.
      But to be fair, did we even rely on normies to be on the clearnet for it to function back in the 1990's?
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      xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 29-Oct-2022 13:41:23 JST xianc78 xianc78
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      @ryo It's still a problem. There are many different darknets out there. Some instances will only support Tor. Others will only support I2P. Some will support both. It's going to be a huge mess.

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      xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 29-Oct-2022 13:41:47 JST xianc78 xianc78
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      @charliebrownau @ryo I know it had military origin. I do believe that I2P is superior and we should be using that instead, but people avoid it because the main implementation is written in Java, despite the fact that native implementations exist.

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      Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Saturday, 29-Oct-2022 13:41:48 JST Charliebrownau Charliebrownau
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      @xianc78 @ryo

      Why do you trust ((( TOR ))) it always seemed to be a honey pot
      and it was started by ((( UNIVERSITIES ))) which have been anti white for a long time

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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 29-Oct-2022 13:43:34 JST 寮 寮
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      @xianc78 @charliebrownau There is i2pd which is written in C++, but you must keep it up to date all the time in order for it to continue to function and not just segment fault after 3 or so hours every single time, and the devs barely even communicate about new releases (basically like dumping the megaphone, and resort to whispering instead).
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      Didek (didek@101010.pl)'s status on Saturday, 29-Oct-2022 13:52:20 JST Didek Didek
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      @xianc78 @ryo

      This bothers me too.
      There should be some way for making self-healing protocol, where server that is on two networks will pass messages from one network to another working like a bridge. But it will be very hard to make, I think (never created any protocol so do not know how hard it will be).

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      Adamas Nemesis (adamasnemesis@social.adamasnemesis.com)'s status on Saturday, 29-Oct-2022 13:54:38 JST Adamas Nemesis Adamas Nemesis
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      @ryo OMG you are *exactly* right. I too have been saying we need to take this pathway for years: unleash the full power of the Dark Web!

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