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   Joshua Lee (10leej@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 08:04:32 JST Joshua Lee

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   • Olivier Forget
   • Fabrice Desré
   • Alex Kretzschmar

   @fabrice @teleclimber @ironicbadger Trademarks are completely allowed under both OSS and FOSS licenses.

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     Fabrice Desré (fabrice@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 08:04:33 JST Fabrice Desré

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     • Olivier Forget
     • Alex Kretzschmar

     @teleclimber @10leej @ironicbadger Yeah, I think at least the GrayJay situation is an interesting questioning of "how do we sustainably fund open source software?"
     Their solution has issues, but purely OSS licenses are not sufficient either, and I'm not sure how trademarks help small projects (that works fine enough for something large & well known such as Firefox).

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     Joshua Lee (10leej@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 08:04:34 JST Joshua Lee

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     • Olivier Forget
     • Alex Kretzschmar

     @teleclimber @ironicbadger look up GrayJay

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     Fabrice Desré (fabrice@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 08:04:34 JST Fabrice Desré

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     • Olivier Forget
     • Alex Kretzschmar

     @10leej @teleclimber @ironicbadger See https://hiphish.github.io/blog/2023/10/18/grayjay-is-not-open-source/

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     Olivier Forget (teleclimber@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 08:04:34 JST Olivier Forget

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     • Fabrice Desré
     • Alex Kretzschmar

     @fabrice @10leej @ironicbadger That's helpful, thank you. So that's GrayJay, and they explain the reason for that license (though I agree with the post that Trademark would be a better tool here.)

     All the other FUTO projects I looked at are properly Open Source. Immich will stay Open Source (according to their blog post).

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     Joshua Lee (10leej@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 08:04:35 JST Joshua Lee

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     • Alex Kretzschmar

     @ironicbadger Welp guess I wont use it now because FUTO doesn't understand what Open Source is

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     Olivier Forget (teleclimber@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 08:04:35 JST Olivier Forget

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     • Alex Kretzschmar

     @10leej @ironicbadger Why do you say that? (it's the first time I hear about FUTO)

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     Alex Kretzschmar (ironicbadger@techhub.social)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 08:04:38 JST Alex Kretzschmar

     The Immich news today I hope is the start of a trend. Vitally important projects that will help us be freed from the clutches of the big few tech companies nurtured and protected.
     I do hope the FUTO turn out to be the good guys their site appears to make them out to be. Time will be the judge. But it's a very promising thing. Congrats to the #immich project.