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   Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 02:06:44 JST Aral Balkan

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   • Kyle Montanio
   • Darmok On The Ocean

   @FantasticalEconomics @Karstan “From the river to the sea?” I remember Netanyahu using that in a speech recently. I guess he must be antisemitic. Oh, wait, it’s not antisemitic when you use it to mean exterminating the Palestinian people. My bad.

   https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/netanyahu-from-river-sea-israel-control-1234949408/

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     Kyle Montanio (fantasticaleconomics@geekdom.social)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 02:06:45 JST Kyle Montanio

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     • Darmok On The Ocean

     @Karstan

     Much probably comes down to how you define it. If you believe "from the river to the sea" is antisemitic, then absolutely.

     I am not fully sure about the history (though I have looked into it a little) and can see arguments on both sides. That said, all of the people, the students, I have talked to seem to be using it a support of Palestine rather than an attack against Jewish people.

     But it lives in the gray area where one can interpret it whichever way fits their views, it seems.

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     Darmok On The Ocean (karstan@urbanists.social)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 02:06:47 JST Darmok On The Ocean

     I'm obviously not the arbiter on what is or isn't antisemitic hate speech. But I keep seeing vague claims that the protests have been making antisemitic chants, etc. I can't find any details on these supposed chants.

     Clearly antisemitism is bad and wrong. But is this just one of those cases where anti-zionism is being mislabeled? Or is there seriously a problem with antisemitism in these protests?